It's quite annoying on this forum, you're all much better painters and modelers than me! haha, great work!!

(06-14-2009 09:05 PM)Primal Wrote:  It's quite annoying on this forum, you're all much better painters and modelers than me! haha, great work!!

Thanks for the compliment: I've been in the hobby since I was 5 years old and I try to learn at least something from every painter I talk to - this might explain something

Hear ye, Hear ye! New update!

First of all: this is one of the reasons I haven't had the time to do much work this month. I had my jury yesterday and now it's waiting for results. I know, it's not as smooth as I'd want it but the deadline was getting really close so I had to speed up and skip some stuff.

Anyway: onto the work I did yesterday evening and this morning!

I know I was going to be enlarging him a bit but didn't know it would turn out like this Anyway, I'm happy with how it's turning out. Next step will be merging the head some more with the rest, starting the shoulders and enhancing the helmet. I watered down some ink and covered him with it to make the details come out a bit more clear and to make the dried parts stand out more when adding new layers to him everytime.

Also I lost the sword bit I was planning on using (pic in the first post) so I'm back to 0 on that. I'm gonna start a quest for an equally "ancient" looking thing with some the cresent symbol on it.

EDIT: it looks less messy in real life

that looks really great
it doesnt look messy at all, it actually looks really well made, im jelous, my greenstuff work always turns out quite chunky, that is very sleek and stylish, i really like the size of the commander compared to the size of skelies
it helps pick him out and make him look more impressive, like a captain should be

Just checked the scetch and I can't help but wonder wether he wears a chainmail or studded skirt. Personaly I'd prefer some old bronzen scalemail.

Oh and he looks great. Especially the belt.

The idea is of him having a long studded coat covered with studded leather pads and a chest plate. The army is from some ancient times where decent metal armour was a rarity and the only skellies with any form of armour except turbans will be my knights and GG.

I am however at a blank how to do these studs as you can see in my last update on him I tried some but I cut them off in this update as they were really too big and too fiddly to put them on so I need to find a non-fiddly way to make even smaller ons fit on. any advice from pro-sculptors here is very welcome

well im no pro but i like to think i can hold my own with the green stuff and a double ended implement (easy there DoN)
i would do it by...
making the tiny tiny fiddly ones
sorry
its just my way to try try and try again with this kinda thing
but how about this, to make the studs you make a kind of jellyfish like structure and place it down on the model, you leave the buldge bit as it is (nudge it into shape if you need too) and flatten the edges of it into the fabric, it gives you a larger bit of green stuff to work with so you get more control

does that help

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly but I think this is what your saying? (if not correct me): so I need to make like some sort of small mould jellyfish/mushroom-cap like? and then press that onto soft GS on the skirt? and it will leave studs? Sounds plausible and might try it out. The issue with my previous fiddly way is that the studs kept sticking to my sculpting tool instead of the model, even when made wet because they were just too small, took like 15 minutes untill I got 1 in the right place

how did you do the base of his chest plate?

I created a small rim first along the bottom edge of the chestplate. I let that dry for a day and then took a small roll of GS. I pressed this where the rim of the chest and the skirt meet at about a bit higher than a 90% angle on the rim. Then I pressed it flat and presto! is this clear? because I don't really know how to explain it.

This morning I found a package in the post and full of enthousiasm I ripped apart the packaging to find another 12 skeletons, an old screaming skull catapult and 2 old armoured skellie warriors! (not sure what they used to be)
And this whole lot for 10 USD. I guess this was a good deal.

So after putting my new skellies next to the previous to await an arrival of scimitars I couldn't wait to start painting the metal models so here are some WIP's



I plan on scouring the web for more of these sweet old mini's and maybe make them my grave guard. I know they don't really scream Araby like the rest do but I'll see in the end what they'll be doing.

And here's a wip of the catapult:

I was suprised by how small these are! My Wight lord is a good head taller than the highest bit of this catapult (not really visible in this pic) Anyway, they kick ass of old skool niceness

I like the catapult. And I really think it's a good thing it's so small. It fits with your fluff. (who would use a grand catapult on a ship?)

Whoa, what a great deal. Those old models look great.

Really like the second skeleton. I don't know, I think they look arabian enough, and it will look slightly more implied when they're next to a unit next to the other heavier themed models, so I wouldn't worry too much.

i think they look fine
fluff wise just say they were a unit of mercs on hire who died and were raised with the rest of the crew
they are too awesome looking for them not to be in your army

I have the second skellie but not the first. They look great though, really need to hurry and paint mine

thanks for the nice replies, you guys make me blush

about the armoured skellies: in ancient arabian times, mand used to be divided amongst semi-lords who answered to 1 bigger guy and they used a lot of mercs from the turkish nations because they were easy to recruit/cheaper/ whatever so they could pass as those guys.

@DoN: I actually think the first is an old wraith model, as he has the same "floating garbs" instead of legs like the more recent wraiths

@ Ironlord: yes, I will be painting them in the same theme as the rest (i decided on a deep red as secondary colour after spending 3 hours on blue garbs on model 2 and deciding it didn't fit ) so they will fit in via colours and I will try to get some moon symbols here and there on them

2 hours of blending later and his tabard is done.


I really took my time for it and I'm really happy how it turned out

Nice work on the cloth areas of the Wight, angra. What shade will you use for the shaft of it's weapon? Perhaps something darker then what you used on the boots?

painted the second GG, he's finished except for the weapon and a shield.


@Vyacheslav: the boots of the skellie are still not finished, they'll need 3 more layers untill they look like the gloves of the second skellie. I'm unsure of how I'll do the weapon hafts for the moment