Post: #1

So looking at the army list there are suppose to be elite skirmishers. Now I think we have that quite nicely with the Black Riders, however I do think we need some kind of flying or scouting unit.

Pretty much every army has some version of flying units so that's what I was leaning towards?

So any suggestions?

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0-1 Locust Swarm – perhaps a better name?

In the desert of Nehekhara, despite the unforgiving sun, some creatures cling to life. Occasionally, when the rains come down and bring life to the river, vast swarms of Locusts emerge from the ground, drawn by the moisture in the air. These insects are voracious and hungry, and spend their short lives hunting for food along the river, devastating swathes of land. However, unlike in other parts of the Old world, these insects do not die. Foul necromancy from Nagashizzar spreads across the land and infuses these insects with unholy vigour. Flying in front of Nagash’s legions, these swarms spread death and disease, devouring anything they come across.

M 1 / WS 2 / BS 0 / S 2 / T 2 / W 3 / I 2 / A 3 / Ld 10

Special Rules
Swarm
Fly
Poison

Droning Horror
Fused with the dark magic of the Supreme Lord of Undeath, the drone of the swarm takes on a horrifying sound that cannot be ignored. It grates on their senses, setting their nerves on edge and even the stoutest warrior hesitates as the swarm bears down on him
Any enemy unit within 6” of a Locus Swarm must pass a Ld test if they wish to fire a missile weapon, or in the case of wizards, if they wish to cast a spell. If failed they cannot ignore the drone of the swarm and suffer a -2 to any to hit roles. In the case of warmachines that fail and do not roll to hit, the player controlling the swarm can choose to make the warmachine player re-roll the artillery dice. This rule also applies to stand and shoot if the swarm charges a unit, however in this case there is no range limitation. Any wizards that fail the test will miscast on double if they roll a double ‘2’ in addition to the normal double ‘1’.
This rule does not affect units that are Immune to Psychology.

Post: #2

What about old-style Carrion, with the Wraith riding on top of them (like in the 4th Edition Undead book)? There is a Carrion monstrous mount for the Legion right? If so this might not be a bad fit.

If the above idea is unacceptable I have a couple others (which I'll elaborate on later).

Post: #3

Flying zombie crocodile riders???

Post: #4

I did consider carrion myself but TK already have those. Any other suggestions. It doesn't necessarily have to by a bird type creature, just something that fulfils the long range harassing / warmachine hunter role.

Post: #5

Just had a "Mummy" thought.

How about locust plagues? Like bat swarms, but with full flying range and 3 attacks & wounds?

Flammable would also be appropriate.

Post: #6

Hmmm......I actually really like that idea, Like you said full flying range, weak (S2 T2), but really irritating in someway, some special rule that makes messes up with troops shooting or moving the turn after or something?

Post: #7

All units within 6" have -1 to shoot due to their irritating hum and Guess Range weapons need a 3+ to fire?

Post: #8

Irritating drone....that should annoy spellcasters as well...all enemy wizards within 12'' of the unit miscast on double 2 in addition to the usual double 1, perhaps?

Post: #9

Ok, here is an idea based on what we have so far:

Locust Swarm – perhaps a better name?

Fluff

M 1 / WS 2 / BS 0 / S 2 / T 2 / W 3 / I 2 / A 3 / Ld 5

Special Rules
Unbreakable
Fly

Droning Horror
Fused with the dark magic of the Supreme Lord of Undeath, the drone of the swarm takes on a horrifying sound that cannot be ignored. It grates on their senses, setting their nerves on edge and even the stoutest warrior hesitates as the swarm bears down on him
Any enemy unit within 6” of a Locus Swarm must pass a Ld test if they wish to fire a missile weapon, or in the case of wizards, if they wish to cast a spell. If failed they cannot ignore the drone of the swarm and suffer a -2 to any to hit roles. Any warmachines that fail and do not roll to hit must re-roll the artillery dice. This rule also applies to stand and shoot if the swarm charges a unit, however in this case there is no range limitation. Any wizards that fail the test will miscast on double if they roll a double ‘2’ in addition to the normal double ‘1’.
This rule does not affect units that are Immune to Psychology.


How does that look? Does anyone else think the stats look too weak?

Post: #10

They should be harder to hit with shooting, I mean its common sense.

Post: #11

In addition to what doombunny said, unless you plan on having them be immune to crumbling replace Unbreakable with Swarm.

Also, I think the enemy wizard bit should be raised to 12'' with no Ld test required. It already represents the drone getting in the way of their incantation. And maybe Poison for the unit.

Post: #12

Poison definatley.

Also Skirmish.

Post: #13

The locusts would not suffer from crumbling as they wouldn't be undead. I was thinking they could just be a normal unbreakable swarm type unit.

Poison I agree with, that can be added in. I'm not sure of the Drone auto affecting wizards, I think that might be a little too strong?

Post: #14

(10-28-2009 09:31 PM)Disciple of Nagash Wrote:  I'm not sure of the Drone auto affecting wizards, I think that might be a little too strong?

Tell that to a Dark Elf player with a Ring of Hotek

Post: #15

Swarm - Yes
Skirmish - No
Poison - Yes
Auto effect wizards - No

Keep em awful in cc, there ment to be irritants, not monsters. No stat changes.

Post: #16

(10-29-2009 05:07 PM)Marcus Von Drac Wrote:  Skirmish - No

If they are Flyers they would have to skirmish. If its going to be a swarm it needs a higher Ld in my opinion. Other then that i Agree with Marcus.

Edit: Should the player controlling the locust chose wether the artillary dice should be re-rolled as there isn't a lot of point rolling a dice then picking it up and rolling it again whatever the result

Post: #17

I agree with Marcus about the no auto affecting wizards. Just because DE have an OP magic item I don't want to do the same here.

I think we should with Flyers, Poison, and the stats with a higher Ld as CRD said. I also agree with CRD last comment, in that the Legion player can choose to make the enemy player re-roll their artillery dice.

How does that sound?

Post: #18

Base Size? same as spirit hosts?
Points?

Post: #19

Yeah they look good with the additions - care to post up the updated profile DoN?

Quote:

Quote:Marcus Von Drac Wrote:
Skirmish - No

If they are Flyers they would have to skirmish.

Shoosh .

Post: #20

Skaven don't have flying units, neither does empire. This list already dabbles in just about everything, shouldn't we leave a couple holes?