Post: #1

This thread is for voting on the Mounts for the Legion of Nagash

Please note: This is not to vote whether they fit in with the theme etc. That is what the discussion in the threads is for.

It is to check and ensure we have created fair rules that are not unbalancing, or there is not something grossly wrong that has been over looked.

This Poll will close on 20/03/10

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Ancient Bone Dragon - 370pts

For many years the dragons have travelled to the Plains of Bones when they knew their lives were nearing the end. At the centre of this place of death, carcasses the size of hills can be found, the remains of the fathers of the drakes. Only the acolytes of Nagash have the power to summon these giants back once more, but to do so gives them a servant that is nigh on indestructible.

M 6 / WS 3 / BS 0 / S 7 / T 6 / W 7 / I 2 / A 6 / Ld 5

Special Rules

Undead
Fly
Terror
Large Target


Bones of the Earth
Muscles and skin have long wasted away on these creatures, but the bones they leave behind are held together by a magic so strong that they are almost impossible to break.
The Dragon has a 3+ Scaly Skin save

Father of the Dragons
These beasts are the ancestors of the lesser drakes, and they are a stark reminder that they are not as immortal as some would believe. The sight of the long distant kin used in such a way can deter even the most determined of dragons
An Ancient Dragon causes fear in all other dragons with the exception of Dragons who are ItP.

Violated
To some extent the dragon's spirit clings to its bones, enraged beyond belief at the desecration of its long dead body. At times it grows strong enough to manifest with a roar of pure hate and terror
Once per shooting phase pick one enemy unit within 6" (if in combat, this power may not be used). That unit must take an immediate panic check at -2 Ld.

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Dragon Shade - 300pts

Not content with summon the bodies of the ancient dragons, Nagash sought supremacy over their noble spirits as well. In time the most devious of his magics managed to corrupt their souls, chaining them to his command forever

M 6 / WS 6 / BS 0 / S 5 / T 5 / W 5 / I 5 / A 6 / Ld 8

Special Rules

Undead
Fly
Terror
Ethereal
Large Target


Cradle of Shadows
Whilst its ethereal form does not allow any to ride this dangerous creature, its magical nature allows it to takes it master inside itself, delivering them safely to wherever they are commanded
This rule overrides the normal ethereal rule and allows corporeal characters to use the Dragon Shades as mount if the option is available to them.

Essence of Decay
The merest touch from this dragon leeches vitality from its victims. Those who are not slain outright by its claws find themselves ageing rapidly unto decay as the years rush forth to claim them and even their equipment.
At the end of every combat phase every enemy model in BtB contact with the Dragon Shade must take a toughness test. If failed the model suffers a wound, no armour saves allowed.

Will of the Master
Dragons are noble creatures, and though dominated by another's will, an Inkling of their former personality shines through.
If the rider is killed, then the dragon starts is slain outright, no saves are possible against this.

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Fellbeast - 185pts

In the air above Nagashizzar, many terrible creatures swirl and glide around the spires and towers of the fortress. They are an unholy amalgamation of animals, twisted by the warpstone they are exposed to on that fell peak. The opposite of the noble Hippogryphs, they often have a sinuous snake-like body, with the wings of a bat and the head and front limbs of a dragon. However, whatever there varied may be appearance, there is no doubt that these creatures are deadly, capable of ripping a man in half with their claws, or devouring a horse in a bite.

M 5 / WS 4 / BS 0 / S 5 / T 5 / W 4 / I 4 / A 4 / Ld 6

Special Rules

Fly
Terror
Large Target
Scaly Skin (save of 4+)

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Greater Carrion - 30pts

The Land of the Dead lies to the south of Nagashizzar, and in its great expanse the armies of the Tomb Kings can often be seen. Like giant fleshless birds circling above, the Carrion are hideous creatures attracted to the scent of blood and battle. Nagash makes use of these creatures in his forces, and bestows the Carrion upon his generals. this is a great boon, letting them soar above the enemy, and as a steed the Carrion are as vicious as any creature in the desert lands.

M 2 / WS 3 / BS 0 / S 4 / T 4 / W 1 / I 2 / A 2 / Ld 3

Special Rules

Undead
Fly

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Arabian Warsteed Hero Mount +12pts / Lord Mount +18pts

In the deserts of Araby, to the south of the Land of the dead, the armies of the Sultans ride to war on great Warsteeds, large noble beasts with a fiery temperament. Nagash breeds many of these spirited horses for use in his armies, and those living followers of his will often be seen riding to battle atop one of them, ready to charge down his enemies in a mass of Man and Horse all but impossible to stop.

M 8 / WS 3 / BS 0 / S 3 / T 3 / W 1 / I 3 A 1 / Ld 5

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Dead Horse - Hero Mount +12pts / Lord Mount +18pts

Not content with living steeds, the Great Necromancer and his generals choose the fittest, most bloodthirsty Arabian warsteeds and flay the flesh from their bones with their dark powers. Their lively spirit remains bound to the bones now capable of carrying a man or undead tirelessly over league after league no matter what the terrain. These Skeletal Steeds are given to Nagash's elite, to spurn them on ever faster to greater acts of service to their lord.

M 8 / WS 2 / BS 0 / S3 / T3 / W 1 / I 2 / A 1 / Ld 5

Special Rules
Undead

Post: #2

Aww... I thought we were going to call the undead steed the "Dead horse" lol

Post: #3

*beats Dreadgrass with a dead horse!*

I still say the Greater Carrion shouldn't be weaker than the 'normal' undead carrion in the TK list, give it T4!

Voted yes... Yepp, no lecture from me this time :P

Post: #4

(03-06-2010 11:30 AM)Danceman Wrote:  I still say the Greater Carrion shouldn't be weaker than the 'normal' undead carrion in the TK list, give it T4!

Oh, I see your point, I never even realised. Yes that should be changed. Apart from that though, yep it looks good.

Post: #5

Yeah, they look good

Post: #6

Those Dragons might be a bit OP... though playtesting will tell.

The carrions Toughness is not relevent since it has 1 wound...

and yes, I'm sure we decided on "dead horse" This should be "insubstantial"? if ridden by a "wight"?

Post: #7

Carrions's toughness raised to 4.

Skeletal Steed renamed Dead Horse.

@ Bishop - no the steeds in the Legion don't have the insubstantial steed rule. I'm pretty sure somewhere along the line we agreed to leave that as a VC only rule.

Post: #8

Can we also have a breakdown of which characters can ride what? I know a lot of them are obvious, but...

Post: #9

I don't think there should be any issues with the Bone Dragon, as it is actually weaker than the existing equivalent, the Star Dragon. It is the Dragon Shade that needs to be tested IMO.

Oh and could you change the Essence of Decay rule to specify that it affects only enemy models in base contact? Otherwise the rider would have to take a T test every turn.

Post: #10

Deadgrass:

Ancient Bone Dragon: Zenith Lord, Disciple of Nagash
Dragon Shade: Zenith Lord, Disciple of Nagash
Fellbeast: Zenith Lord, Disciple of Nagash, Zenith Prince, Nagash Captain.
Greater Carrion: Zenith Lord, Disciple of Nagash, Zenith Prince, Nagashi Captain, Mortuary Priest.
Arabian Warsteed: Nagashi Captain / mounted units with Nagash rule.
Dead Horse: All Undead characters / mounted Undead units.

@ Todd - I have amended that wording.

Now any more votes?

Post: #11

Look fine to me, at least till playtesting irons out any unseen wrinkles

Post: #12

(03-12-2010 12:06 AM)Dreadgrass Wrote:  Look fine to me, at least till playtesting irons out any unseen wrinkles

Precisely why I am holding my tounge for now. Theoryhammer only tells you so much, after all.

Post: #13

Hmmm... I might test the Greater Carrion.

Post: #14

What happens when you have a undead character on a living steed (fellbeast)

Post: #15

(03-13-2010 07:34 PM)Capt Rubber Ducky Wrote:  What happens when you have a undead character on a living steed (fellbeast)

Hmm, not sure on that.......

Post: #16

I've thrown around a few ideas in another thread on the living/ undead rules, I'm thinking some kind of cohesion rule is necessary as theres living/ dead mounts, living/ dead heroes and living/ dead units and it would mess with a lot of army dynamics to disallow putting them together, for example, it would make the Nagashi Cultists a less used option as most of your characters can't join them...

Post: #17

Voted through.

Poll Closed.