Post: #1

Why is it the the VC don't have access to polearms such as halberds (lances excluded). I think that it only stands to reason that, seeing as undead can come from anywhere, they should have a wider variety of options for their troop/special choices. I know the GG used to have halberds, so why not anymore?

More importantly I wanna see a halberd magic item, something that adds the +1 strength and some other effect that I can't think of AT the moment.

Does anyone else feel that the missing halberds seems odd and unfitting? So far as I know the Bretonnians and Chaos Warriors have troops with halberd capabilities...so why not?

Post: #2

(05-29-2010 03:35 AM)Ravenfeld Wrote:  Why is it the the VC don't have access to polearms such as halberds (lances excluded). I think that it only stands to reason that, seeing as undead can come from anywhere, they should have a wider variety of options for their troop/special choices. I know the GG used to have halberds, so why not anymore?

I like to think that we dont have many unit upgrades because there crude undead, Slow and weak but re-raiseable and resilient, but the truth is that VC would be overpowered if we had unit upgrade options.

Post: #3

Yes, due to the cheapness of skeletons, if we could then give them plus one strength for a point or two, they'd be nicely OP

Post: #4

Skeletons are considered cheap? Holy cow! Orc Boyz are half the points and have a better statline! As far as I'm concerned they are 8 points a pop because of Fear and ItP! But still, I mean the Boyz get 4 str on the first turn of combat and have that juicy 4 toughness!

-- Ravenfeld

Post: #5

Well, I consider them to be quite cheap due to the fact that not only are they ItP, but you can easily raise them back up again . Can't do that with orc boyz

Post: #6

touche my good man, touche... although that would be freakin sweet! Raising Orc Boyz with Waagh magic.. broken, but sweet.

-- Ravenfeld

Post: #7

What would be mean would be to give Skellies some crossbows/bows. Then, kill several guys in the middle of an enemy unit, then raise them as Skellies and watch the fun begin

*sigh, wishful thinking

Post: #8

Kinda reminds me of that VC Mordheim group, the Vampire does has a halberd. One of these days!

Post: #9

Yanda Wrote:but the truth is that VC would be overpowered if we had unit upgrade options.

Would it? In my opinion it gives more versatility, and with a reasonable pricing it can be balanced. But it doesn't really add to the slavering horde, aye. I mean, hitting and then S4, that'll mean the Skeletons are able to kill something.

Then again, upgrading to halberds means less troops. That means less of a horde, and could be a more elite army. Think of a Blood Dragon leading the army.

I think that'll be fair to get for the nerfs we just received.

Post: #10

Consider that most of these posts were made during 7th edition.

Post: #11

I have always said through all the editions that Skellies should have the options for a variety of weapons. Their low stats and ensuring fair costing would not make then OP, an it makes sense fluff wise.

Post: #12

and I'd be able to field my 30 GG converted with Halberds again... this time as a horde...

Post: #13

With the new step up rule and the low initiative of our troops, I think gw are a better option now. Halberds would be an option for skeletons that would make a lot of sense fluffwise, but personally I would prefer DoW's pikes, crossbows and some gunpowder.
AT the same time, halberds look too "lower class" for a vampire imho and I would prefer some more fancy ability for their nobler handweapons (+1 one strength on charge, magic attacks, a bonus on ws...). It seems very silly that wights have magic attacks and killing blow by default and vampires have... nothing...