Post: #1

This thread is to create and discuss powers specific to the Strigoi bloodline.

Post: #2

Ancient Beast of Strigoi: 100pts
The vampire gains regeneration, +1 Strength and +1 attack. In addition, all friendly Ghouls and Varghulfs within 6" of the vampire suffer one less wound exactly as if the armies BSB were present. If the BSB is present the effects are cumulative.

Massive Monstrousity : 35pts
+1 Toughness

Blood Rage : 30pts
After first wound dealt in close combat the vampire is subject to frenzy and can never lose it.

Bat form : 30pts
Fly and may join fell bats.

Infinite hatred; As current book.

Iron Sinews : 15pts
+ 1 Strength

Note; I think this cover the basics as well opens up some discussion on further powers, or indeed if you feel these powers are useless

Post: #3

I like the ancient beast rule, quite fluffy. I think massive monstrosity should be more expensive - 45pts.

I like the option to join fell bats for bat form, much more fluffy.

So I pretty much like all those rules, though do you not think Hunter in the Dark would also work well for them?

Post: #4

Good point. I agree on both accounts.

Post: #5

Another one for the mix:

Fear of the Hunter - 25pts
Just the smell of one these bestial vampire is enough to send horses or steeds into a fearful retreat
The vampire counts as causing terror in any cavalry, monster, chariot or swarm units. Such is the fear the affected units must take the relevant Fear and Terror tests at -1Ld

Post: #6

Bravo! I like them all. The Ancient Monstrosity is especially fluffy, and it screams to me...well, it just screams. Very loudly. You broke my speakers. =/

I was thinking about Strigoi when I was pondering the Necrarch powers, and that Blood Rage idea hit me. You beat me to it, sadly. Stealing my thunder. Nyeh. I'll get you, somehow.

Post: #7

Ancient Beast of Strigoi: 100pts
The eldest of the Strigoi possess not only brutal strength but also the pride and spirit of the ancient Strigoi lords
The vampire gains regeneration, +1 Strength and +1 attack. In addition, all friendly Ghouls and Varghulfs within 6" of the vampire suffer one less wound exactly as if the armies BSB were present. If the BSB is present the effects are cumulative.

Massive Monstrousity : 45pts
As time pass the Strigoi vampire grow tougher and tougher and merely shrug off wounds which would cripple or even kill lesser beings
+1 Toughness

Blood Rage : 30pts
Once the vampire has tasted blood the raging beast within is set free
After first wound dealt in close combat the vampire is subject to frenzy and can never lose it.

Bat form : 30pts
Its wicked diet have created a bond with the flying creatures of the night
Fly and may join fell bats.

Infinite hatred; As current book.
Within the bitter souls of Strigoi vampires burns a great anger towards the living and the dead which never will be extinguished

Fear of the Hunter - 25pts
Just the smell of one these bestial vampire is enough to send horses or steeds into a fearful retreat
The vampire counts as causing terror in any cavalry, monster, chariot or swarm units. Such is the fear the affected units must take the relevant Fear and Terror tests at -1Ld

Iron Sinews : 15pts
The strength of the Strigoi vampires is goes beyond even that of the other lords of the night
+ 1 Strength

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New power

Varghkin : 50pts
The vampire have truly embraced its beastail nature
Gains +1 to his Attacks, Strength, and Toughness, in addition also gains hatred. -1 to WS and -2 to I. Can never be the army General. No longer count as a wizard and cannot take any additional powers but counts as a Strigoi vampire in all respects.

I think it is a nice midcost power and losing the magic level makes you think twice. Effectively makes it a character varghulf. A good deal if you just look at the stats but at the same time you're giving up magic.

Post: #8

I quite like that, but perhaps it should also have frenzy?

I was thinking that Hunter in the Dark should be a common bloodline power, I can imagine all the bloodlines have need and use for scouts.

Post: #9

The more I look at it the less I like it. I mean we already got alot of powers increasing toughness etc etc.

I think we just should add in Hunter in the Dark and remove Varghkin altogether.

Post: #10

I don't know, I quite liked the idea of a mindless beast. Then again I suppose that's what we have a Varghulf for.

Post: #11

I think Varghkin should stay if there is an end note made stating that massive monstrosity cannot be taken along with Varghkin. My reasoning behind this stipulation is that +2 T, in addition to whatever stat changes, is a bit extreme for a vampire...

Post: #12

Ok a new go;

Varghkin: 50pts
The vampire gains +1 Strength and Toughness to his profile, in addition he also have the Hatred special rule and -1 WS. The vampire may not pick any additional vampire powers, magic items(if we let strigoi take magic items) or other upgrades(mounts, etc). Vampire counts are level 2 wizards and Vampires have no magic level at al..

I feel this is more streamlined and makes it actually worthwhile. Extra attack power VS lack of magic. The count keeps his magic level due to more individuality than a mere thrall and it should be some trade off for not being able to spend the remaining 50pts in powers. Thoughts?

Post: #13

danceman Wrote:Vampire counts are level 2 wizards and Vampires have no magic level at al..

Might want to word it a bit better.

This list seems fine to me. Looks a lot like the 6th edition Bloodlines to me, but they did have the best way to present the Strigoi anyhow.

Post: #14

Looks pretty good to me as well.

Post: #15

Dosen't Varghulfs also have regeneration?

Post: #16

They do but these arent varghulfs, just a character with the traits of a varghulf.

Post: #17

I really like the Bat Form power allowing the vamp to join Fell Bats. I can see people screaming 'cheese', but bats are a lot softer than a lot of flying units.

Post: #18

Upping it to 35pts would perhaps make more sense.

Post: #19

I think it is balanced for 30pts. We've got to bear in mind that the Strigoi aren't going to get any better saves, magic items etc. So being able to shield themselves in bats, as they will not have access to the Wristbands of Black Gold is fair enough IMO.

Post: #20

Right, even though I suggested that too it slipped my mind :P