Post: #1

This thread is for voting on the Strigoi Bloodline Powers

Please note: This is not to vote whether they fit in with the theme etc. That is what the discussion in the threads is for.

It is to check and ensure we have created fair rules that are not unbalancing, or there is not something grossly wrong that has been over looked.

This Poll will close on 25/04/09


Ancient Beast of Strigoi: 100pts
The eldest of the Strigoi possess not only brutal strength but also the pride and spirit of the ancient lords of their bloodline.
The vampire gains regeneration, +1 Strength and +1 attack. In addition, all friendly Ghouls and Varghulfs within 6" of the vampire suffer one less wound exactly as if the armies BSB were present. If the BSB is present the effects are cumulative.

Varghkin: 50pts
The vampire have truly embraced its beastail nature.
The vampire gains +1 Strength, Toughness and movement value, in addition the vampire will have -1 to his WS. The vampire may not pick any additional vampire powers, magic items other upgrades(mounts, etc). Vampire counts are level 2 wizards, Vampires have no magic level at all.

Massive Monstrousity : 45pts
As time pass the Strigoi vampire grow tougher and tougher and merely shrug off wounds which would cripple or even kill lesser beings.
+1 Toughness

Blood Rage : 30pts
Once the vampire has tasted blood the raging beast within is set free.
After first wound dealt in close combat the vampire is subject to frenzy and can never lose it.

Bat form : 30pts
Its wicked diet have created a bond with the flying creatures of the night.
Fly. One vampire in the army with this power may join a unit of fell bats.

Fear of the Hunter - 25pts
Just the smell of one these bestial vampire is enough to send horses or steeds into a fearful retreat.
The vampire counts as causing terror in any cavalry, monster, chariot or swarm units. Such is the fear the affected units must take the relevant Fear and Terror tests at -1Ld, and it still applies if the unit is ItP.

Infinite hatred; As current book. 15pts (lower cost than VC book as Strigois have Hatred as standard)
Within the bitter souls of Strigoi vampires burns a great anger towards the living and the dead which never will be extinguished.

Iron Sinews : 15pts
The strength of the Strigoi vampires is goes beyond even that of the other lords of the night.
+ 1 Strength

Post: #2

It's fine as it is, but I'd change the wording of Bat Form. As it is you could have one vamp paying for the power while having another one joining the unit.

Post: #3

Agreed, I have amended the wording slightly.

Post: #4

I might drop Massive Monstrosity in point by just a little bit, maybe by 5-10 points.

Post: #5

I like them in general, except Varghkin and Ancient Beast of the Strigoi. I'd never take Varghkin under normal circumstances, as it's slower than a Varghulf, doesn't cause Terror and has 2 less wounds. I like Ancient Beast of the Strigoi, but it doesn't give enough for the 100pts and the sacrifices you have to make for it. I'd suggest adding an extra wound or two, an extra toughness, another extra attack and dropping the pseudo-battle-standard thing. Don't get me wrong, I like it, but to make him both fluffy in terms of his power level and to add that extra bit it would need to be more. Maybe add the battle standard thing in as a basic stat change for all Strigoi Vampire Lords.

Post: #6

Swissdictator - why? The standard for an point of toughness is 50pts. We've taken a bit off as the vampire has access to limited protective items, but bearing in mind its on a T5 vampire I think is fairly pointed.

Kaladas - I think your suggestions would be well over a 100pts. Regen by itself is 50pts, the +1s & +1A are around 30pts, so getting the remaining crumbling ability for 20pts is about right when factoring the Strigois don't have access to banners etc

Post: #7

Ok, maybe I think I was confusing it with another power in previous books! My bad. Carry on. Consider my vote of maybe changed to yes.

Post: #8

Great, I've changed your vote over Swissdictator

Post: #9

Fear of the Hunter seems overcost. Standard cost for terror upgrade is 25pts. I don't think the -1 to the test makes up for the limitations on those affected.

I would suggest either dropping the cost to 20 or consider adding an additional affect that all non-monstrous mounts are -1 to hit

hmmm.... was gonna post a couple other suggestions in the other thread only to find out it is locked. Too late to throw a couple others out to chew on?

Post: #10

No wonder it looks underpowered, I missed:

"and it still applies if the unit is ItP."

Now it is definitely worth it's points.

Post: #11

Bump!!

Come on, we have loads of people on this site everyday - more than 7 people can vote!

Post: #12

I love the ability of vamps to join bats. I was going to suggest that making mulpiple vamps join seperate units of Fell Bats would be good, then realized how quickly broken that would be.

I had also thought Massive Monstrosity was overpriced compared to Vargkin, but then I re-read the description.

Please change my vote to I like.

Post: #13

Great - I have changed your vote Fodderboy.

Post: #14

Looks more or less fine, although I would say that anything with the undead rule should be unaffected by "Fear of the Hunter "

Post: #15

Well the first poll for the Bloodline Armies was a success!

Poll Closed