knowledge of Dark magic used to create necromancy was stolen from the Dark Elves through torture,
Technically all creatures can be turned into a vampire with the help of the Blood Kiss, vampires are not a race or nation, it's style, so to speak, of living first of all. The most logical explanation is that GW authors rarely think beyond known stereotypes like that one about vampires being usually humans.
Yes, you are right, as in general also. But. Modern vampires have changed, have they not? They are not Nehekharans anymore, they wear gothic armor, wield longswords and command all manner of night creatures the ancient vampires couldn't even think of. They are part of the Empire with all that follows and so, even if Vlad is indeed Vashanesh, he's changed beyond all comparison. All of them are not just enhanced humans like the ancient ones were, but horrible monsters of Undeath being swallowed by the Dark Magic. Am I not right? So why not to have vampires of the other races since it's not a race anymore but a some kind of lifestyle?And newer vampires are exactly like the Originals. They all bear the traits of their line's progenitor but are merely shadows of their forebears because of the reason above.
O_o how so?Vashanesh never existed now
however we can't say for certain until we get an example of an elvish vampire.
o.o how so?
And I am just going to add it here too. I poked and the authors where told by GW to write out Vash.
Edit: You like old lore and prefer to follow it? Fine.
Don't claim that because you like the old lore more it is more viable due to being old. Like said in the other thread most games and fantasy/sci-fi settings get their lore adjusted/changed/improved. And yeah I can admit not everyone (myself included) will always like the changes.
Why, if I may ask?I don't mind personally, I always found the vague explanation that Vlad was Vashanesh a little dull.
Why, if I may ask?
Maybe, but still, he really rocks, though one might say Mannfred rocks more (and to some extent, definitely).One of the few reasons Vlad was the most badass in ye olden days was because he was the only one with real fluff.
It's just a matter of ways, I think. GW authors seldom write decently now, but if they try a bit harder, maybe they could write a good fluff on Vashanesh - smth like he went through lots of events that changed him that much to become the first Vampire Count. Why not, after all?I still feel Vlad is one of the most (if not the most) "badass" vampire from Lore but, personally, I don't see the old Vashanesh fluff adding to that. (Largely because it was terribad).
Indeed! :DAnyway Nagash said Vlad iz da best so clearly it is so, it's not like the old bag of bones has been wrong before...right? :tongue:
End Times gave us this - it's not said how or when, but the elven princess Eldyra became a vampire. Oh, and later she became the elven god of death, but that's a different story.
Khaine - Chapter Two/Storm and Sorrow
'There, she often conversed with Princess Eldyra of Tiranoc, sole survivor of Eltharion's attempt to rescue the Everchild, who had been captured at the whim of Mannfred von Carstein. Eldyra and her jailors believed that Mannfred had afflicted her with his blood's curse; her spirit was cold as ice, shadowy creatures lurked ever on the edge of her vision and the voices of the dead haunted her like waking dreams ... Only when she had earned a measure of Eldyra's confidence, did the goddess speak of what had truly transpired. The same ritual by which Nagash had wrested death magic from the Great Vortex had also destroyed Ereth Khial, te elven goddess of the dead, and in the aftemath her divine remnants had been bound to Eldyra's mortal form. Now, just as Tyrion had become an avatar of Khaine, Eldyra was slowly inheriting the Pale Queen's mantle. The voices Eldyra heard were those of lately-slain elves who had escaped Slaanesh's maw, and the shadowy creatures were the rephallim that had guided them to her.'