http://www.vampirecounts.net/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:20:57 +0000 MyBB http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Has-anyone-painted-a-bakarathi-hunter-before Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:18:36 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Has-anyone-painted-a-bakarathi-hunter-before
I have finally got my replacement Varghulf model, Reapers own bakarathi hunter. However now I am at a bit of an inspirational roadblock.

I havent been able to find a single painted photo of him and I am a little stuck for ideas.



That be the model I am going to paint, I would be grateful if someone who has painted it before could put up a pic or for some ideas. The "breast plate" is going to be exposed muscle (red pink ish) but I am not really sure how to go about the other bits.

In fluff terms is a Lahmain (sp) vampire who was infected by a blood curse and has degenerated into Varghulf state. Weird fluff I know but I am currently in an escalation campaign with story attached and it fits in with the whole plot.]]>
I have finally got my replacement Varghulf model, Reapers own bakarathi hunter. However now I am at a bit of an inspirational roadblock.

I havent been able to find a single painted photo of him and I am a little stuck for ideas.



That be the model I am going to paint, I would be grateful if someone who has painted it before could put up a pic or for some ideas. The "breast plate" is going to be exposed muscle (red pink ish) but I am not really sure how to go about the other bits.

In fluff terms is a Lahmain (sp) vampire who was infected by a blood curse and has degenerated into Varghulf state. Weird fluff I know but I am currently in an escalation campaign with story attached and it fits in with the whole plot.]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Red-Fury-against-units Fri, 03 Sep 2010 06:32:55 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Red-Fury-against-units
my group said yes since we also play 40k and thats how a Blood Angels Dreadnought does it...but I dont know]]>
my group said yes since we also play 40k and thats how a Blood Angels Dreadnought does it...but I dont know]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Viability-of-100-zombies Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:28:14 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Viability-of-100-zombies
Not as a combat unit mind you, but rather to deny a flank?

What tactics would you use with 100 zombies?]]>
Not as a combat unit mind you, but rather to deny a flank?

What tactics would you use with 100 zombies?]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Please-help-with-2-5k-list Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:13:50 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Please-help-with-2-5k-list
Count Mannfred
Hellsteed

Heros-495

Wight King
BSB
Drakenhof banner (regen for unit)

necromancer

necromancer

Vampire
Helm of command (lets other unit be WS 6)
Flying Horror

Core-815

30 zombies
music
banner

30 zombies
music
banner

27 Skeletons
champ
music
banner
Hellish Vigour (can march even if not within 6" of a vampire)

12 Crypt Ghouls
Ghast

10 Dire Wolves
Doom Wolf

Corpse Cart
Bale Fire

Special-500

20 Grave Guard
champ
music
banner
Royal Banner of Strigos (hatred to all units, works well with killing blow)

3 Spirit Host

Rare-175

Varaghulf


tell me what you think,


using fly vamp around and give other stuff WS 6

necros for invocation and channeling

regen banner for the guard

dire wolves and skellys for support / flanking

and spirithost charging in. cant be hurt except by magic]]>
Count Mannfred
Hellsteed

Heros-495

Wight King
BSB
Drakenhof banner (regen for unit)

necromancer

necromancer

Vampire
Helm of command (lets other unit be WS 6)
Flying Horror

Core-815

30 zombies
music
banner

30 zombies
music
banner

27 Skeletons
champ
music
banner
Hellish Vigour (can march even if not within 6" of a vampire)

12 Crypt Ghouls
Ghast

10 Dire Wolves
Doom Wolf

Corpse Cart
Bale Fire

Special-500

20 Grave Guard
champ
music
banner
Royal Banner of Strigos (hatred to all units, works well with killing blow)

3 Spirit Host

Rare-175

Varaghulf


tell me what you think,


using fly vamp around and give other stuff WS 6

necros for invocation and channeling

regen banner for the guard

dire wolves and skellys for support / flanking

and spirithost charging in. cant be hurt except by magic]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Ork-questions Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:08:46 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Ork-questions Second how do stupidity and animosity work?]]> Second how do stupidity and animosity work?]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Summon-Undead-Horde--11380 Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:43:35 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Summon-Undead-Horde--11380

Summon Undead Horde comes in at a 12+ to cast for 3d6 Ws. This made me think...in 8th is this a better heal spell than Invo for units?

Follow me. You have 6 PD and need to heal your GG. You could 1d6 6 times but if you roll under a 3 you are done. So no go there. You can 2d6 3 times. You might get off 1-2 of these. Or you could 3d6 on SUH then you can go 2d6 and finally throw a d6.

It seems to me this is a better way to kill blocks in 8th due to the +3/4 to cast. Also you can randomly heal a wraith, varg, whatever and add some troopers.

just a thought guys. What do you think?]]>

Summon Undead Horde comes in at a 12+ to cast for 3d6 Ws. This made me think...in 8th is this a better heal spell than Invo for units?

Follow me. You have 6 PD and need to heal your GG. You could 1d6 6 times but if you roll under a 3 you are done. So no go there. You can 2d6 3 times. You might get off 1-2 of these. Or you could 3d6 on SUH then you can go 2d6 and finally throw a d6.

It seems to me this is a better way to kill blocks in 8th due to the +3/4 to cast. Also you can randomly heal a wraith, varg, whatever and add some troopers.

just a thought guys. What do you think?]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Dispelled-magic Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:16:50 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Dispelled-magic
If i cast a non necromancy spell does that mean i cant cast that particular spell again that turn? and if so if it is dispelled does that mean i have had my cast and cant do it again?]]>
If i cast a non necromancy spell does that mean i cant cast that particular spell again that turn? and if so if it is dispelled does that mean i have had my cast and cant do it again?]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Nicest-thing-your-GW-Gamestore-has-done-for-you Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:44:05 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Nicest-thing-your-GW-Gamestore-has-done-for-you
-Metal terminater model
-Terminater spares, purity seals, powerfists ect
-2 Space marines
-5 Jump packs
-Pot of liche purple

All in all pretty great for free He also helped arrange a large fantasy game today for the end of the store campaign, which I can happily report I won!

So returning to the title whats the nicest thing your store has done for you?]]>
-Metal terminater model
-Terminater spares, purity seals, powerfists ect
-2 Space marines
-5 Jump packs
-Pot of liche purple

All in all pretty great for free He also helped arrange a large fantasy game today for the end of the store campaign, which I can happily report I won!

So returning to the title whats the nicest thing your store has done for you?]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Some-simple-questions Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:44:39 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Some-simple-questions
So, i was thinking of the Vampire Thrall / Lord torpedo tactic to target enemy casters (using ghoulkin, flying horror, hellstead, nightmare, talisman of the lynci etc) so that i get a better chance in the magic phase (which i would like if only to get myl points worth out of my core units). However, i was thinking that some of my usual opponents would rather declare a Flee! reaction for thier wizard rather than stand and fight. If they do flee, i know that they wont be able to cast in thier magic phase (if they havent rallied, although they probably will with a BSB and general in range). However, i am struggling to find anything in the BRB (or errata / FAQ) that says that they cant dispel whilst fleeing.

Fluff wise, it seems obvious - if he cant cast, he cant dispel. But the rules for dispelling just say that you chose a wizard to dispel a spell. Is this truly the case? Have i missed something? Can you really dispel whilst running away? If so, i will probably have to rely on my charge distance roll beating his flee roll - not the precise strategy i was hoping for

Next question, the O&G Waaaagh! and animosity rules: Can these be used to move an orc or goblin unit into base contact (and therefore combat) with an enemy unit? I only ask, becasue i havent read the O&G army book, and if i send a thrall or lord that close to the enemy line or fail a charge and end up standing in the front arc of an enemy unit , i need to know what could happen.

Thanks for thoughts in advance ]]>
So, i was thinking of the Vampire Thrall / Lord torpedo tactic to target enemy casters (using ghoulkin, flying horror, hellstead, nightmare, talisman of the lynci etc) so that i get a better chance in the magic phase (which i would like if only to get myl points worth out of my core units). However, i was thinking that some of my usual opponents would rather declare a Flee! reaction for thier wizard rather than stand and fight. If they do flee, i know that they wont be able to cast in thier magic phase (if they havent rallied, although they probably will with a BSB and general in range). However, i am struggling to find anything in the BRB (or errata / FAQ) that says that they cant dispel whilst fleeing.

Fluff wise, it seems obvious - if he cant cast, he cant dispel. But the rules for dispelling just say that you chose a wizard to dispel a spell. Is this truly the case? Have i missed something? Can you really dispel whilst running away? If so, i will probably have to rely on my charge distance roll beating his flee roll - not the precise strategy i was hoping for

Next question, the O&G Waaaagh! and animosity rules: Can these be used to move an orc or goblin unit into base contact (and therefore combat) with an enemy unit? I only ask, becasue i havent read the O&G army book, and if i send a thrall or lord that close to the enemy line or fail a charge and end up standing in the front arc of an enemy unit , i need to know what could happen.

Thanks for thoughts in advance ]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Return-of-the-Von-Unheimlichs-3K Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:23:50 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Return-of-the-Von-Unheimlichs-3K
So here is a lose sketch:

2 x 28 Spear skellies + FC + Warbanner/+1 Rank Banner 604 pts

1 x 20 Ghouls + champ 168 pts.

1 x 30 Grave Guards, FC, GW + Barrows 465 pts.

2 x 5 Fell Bats 200 pts.

1 x 10 Black Knights, barding, FC, Strigoi Banner 360 pts

1 x 5 Blood Knights, musician 285 pts.

1 x 1 Black Coach 200 pts.

1 x 5 Wraiths 250 pts.


Lord Vlad von Unheimlich 435 pts
Helm of Command, 4+ wd 2+ AS
Full Lore of VC + 2 PD
Extra level

This should come to 2877 pts. I'd like to squeeze in a WK BSB in the black knights, and are considering exchanging a rare choice for a varghulf. Any suggestions will be welcomed

Also I'm wondering whether I should go with a different lore than Lore of Bloodsuckers?

PS. I like my skellies, ghouls might be a better choice, but I like my skellies more and want a skeletal undead horde feel to the army ]]>
So here is a lose sketch:

2 x 28 Spear skellies + FC + Warbanner/+1 Rank Banner 604 pts

1 x 20 Ghouls + champ 168 pts.

1 x 30 Grave Guards, FC, GW + Barrows 465 pts.

2 x 5 Fell Bats 200 pts.

1 x 10 Black Knights, barding, FC, Strigoi Banner 360 pts

1 x 5 Blood Knights, musician 285 pts.

1 x 1 Black Coach 200 pts.

1 x 5 Wraiths 250 pts.


Lord Vlad von Unheimlich 435 pts
Helm of Command, 4+ wd 2+ AS
Full Lore of VC + 2 PD
Extra level

This should come to 2877 pts. I'd like to squeeze in a WK BSB in the black knights, and are considering exchanging a rare choice for a varghulf. Any suggestions will be welcomed

Also I'm wondering whether I should go with a different lore than Lore of Bloodsuckers?

PS. I like my skellies, ghouls might be a better choice, but I like my skellies more and want a skeletal undead horde feel to the army ]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-The-Pink-Skink-Fund Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:09:26 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-The-Pink-Skink-Fund
I did notice that she particularly likes this one




so I ask you the gaming community to help me out with this one.

please note that I will accept any version of this model (new/used/bare/primed/painted/with or without arms) & any contributions will be greatly appreciated.

pm me & I will give you my mailing address

thank you for your time & generosity.]]>
I did notice that she particularly likes this one




so I ask you the gaming community to help me out with this one.

please note that I will accept any version of this model (new/used/bare/primed/painted/with or without arms) & any contributions will be greatly appreciated.

pm me & I will give you my mailing address

thank you for your time & generosity.]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-OSL-Can-someone-shed-light-on-the-matter Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:33:52 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-OSL-Can-someone-shed-light-on-the-matter
I was just wondering if anyone here has any expertise/knowledge with regards to Object Source Lighting. It's a technique I've never tried and quite fancy experimenting on the claw of Huron Blackheart, similar to this but not as strong. I suppose I want him to look like he is summoning a ball of energy. I'm pretty adept at NMM and have a good understanding of where light comes from/goes to, it's more about the aspect of painting it. For example, would the mini be painted as normal and then the OSL applied, or do you paint the OSL as you paint the mini?

If anyone has some spare guides or knows of some good links I'd be most obliged.

Please, I need a light in the black, or I'm afraid, I'll fear the dark!]]>
I was just wondering if anyone here has any expertise/knowledge with regards to Object Source Lighting. It's a technique I've never tried and quite fancy experimenting on the claw of Huron Blackheart, similar to this but not as strong. I suppose I want him to look like he is summoning a ball of energy. I'm pretty adept at NMM and have a good understanding of where light comes from/goes to, it's more about the aspect of painting it. For example, would the mini be painted as normal and then the OSL applied, or do you paint the OSL as you paint the mini?

If anyone has some spare guides or knows of some good links I'd be most obliged.

Please, I need a light in the black, or I'm afraid, I'll fear the dark!]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Your-Wight-King Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:05:10 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Your-Wight-King
But how is Tricksters Shard, Dragon Helm and Sword of Kings on a steed with Barding compared to the first?

With Nightshroud you are sure to be able to get 3 attacks before your challenger does.

With the other combo you are required to survive 4-5 attacks coming your way before you are to hit back, but there is a huge chance for your enemy character to fail hes wardsave if you are able to get a killing blow.

I dunno, anyone can think of a scenarios where Nightshroud really is the item to go for?

My idea would be to have another character next to the one in challenge with trickster shard. Two Wight kings: One with Nightshroud and Sword of Kings, and the other with Trickester shard next to the one in challenge.
(Just dont know how I will afford it in my army atm, or how models in challenge move to accept them. I think there is a chance your enemy model could move away from your other wight with Trickster's Shard.

What do you think? Is this a tactic that would work every time, or only if your enemy does a mistake?

(I need a rule update about how challenges works)]]>
But how is Tricksters Shard, Dragon Helm and Sword of Kings on a steed with Barding compared to the first?

With Nightshroud you are sure to be able to get 3 attacks before your challenger does.

With the other combo you are required to survive 4-5 attacks coming your way before you are to hit back, but there is a huge chance for your enemy character to fail hes wardsave if you are able to get a killing blow.

I dunno, anyone can think of a scenarios where Nightshroud really is the item to go for?

My idea would be to have another character next to the one in challenge with trickster shard. Two Wight kings: One with Nightshroud and Sword of Kings, and the other with Trickester shard next to the one in challenge.
(Just dont know how I will afford it in my army atm, or how models in challenge move to accept them. I think there is a chance your enemy model could move away from your other wight with Trickster's Shard.

What do you think? Is this a tactic that would work every time, or only if your enemy does a mistake?

(I need a rule update about how challenges works)]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Huron-Blackheart-A-BotB-Plog Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:45:15 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Huron-Blackheart-A-BotB-Plog
For those of you who don't already know, every month I enter a competition run by my local GW called The Brotherhood of the Brush. The rules of engagement are quite simple really. Each month a new model is assigned. It's usually picked by the winner of the previous month and must be within a budget of £12 (I think that's about $19 USD), and then painted to the best of our ability. The winner then chooses the next month's model which they get for free. Not bad really!

Last month, if you missed my last plog, was an Eldar Farseer of our choosing. Unfortunately I came a close second, which is probably a good thing seeing as I was struggling to find a mini I really wanted to paint within budget. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this month's model is Huron Blackheart, Chaos Lord and leader of the Red Corsairs. Ok so maybe it wouldn't have been my first choice as Abaddon is within budget, but the beauty of the competition is that it forces to paint models you wouldn't normally consider, and, like all competition painting it really hones your skills.

Right so back story over, it's time to get on with the show. I've just got the model and have had a look. Once I've got rid of the bleeds and mold lines I'll prime him and start taking pictures. So yeah that's about me done for the minute. If any of you have suggestions for a nice scenic base, feel free to contribute. So far I have two ideas. The first being a concrete wall with a large sewer pipe in which his little creature thing will sit. The second with be him standing atop a dreadnought arm/carcass or similar.

Anyway, cheers for taking the time to read folks.

untitled_musketeer]]>
For those of you who don't already know, every month I enter a competition run by my local GW called The Brotherhood of the Brush. The rules of engagement are quite simple really. Each month a new model is assigned. It's usually picked by the winner of the previous month and must be within a budget of £12 (I think that's about $19 USD), and then painted to the best of our ability. The winner then chooses the next month's model which they get for free. Not bad really!

Last month, if you missed my last plog, was an Eldar Farseer of our choosing. Unfortunately I came a close second, which is probably a good thing seeing as I was struggling to find a mini I really wanted to paint within budget. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this month's model is Huron Blackheart, Chaos Lord and leader of the Red Corsairs. Ok so maybe it wouldn't have been my first choice as Abaddon is within budget, but the beauty of the competition is that it forces to paint models you wouldn't normally consider, and, like all competition painting it really hones your skills.

Right so back story over, it's time to get on with the show. I've just got the model and have had a look. Once I've got rid of the bleeds and mold lines I'll prime him and start taking pictures. So yeah that's about me done for the minute. If any of you have suggestions for a nice scenic base, feel free to contribute. So far I have two ideas. The first being a concrete wall with a large sewer pipe in which his little creature thing will sit. The second with be him standing atop a dreadnought arm/carcass or similar.

Anyway, cheers for taking the time to read folks.

untitled_musketeer]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-The-Art-of-Warhammer-Allies Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:15:04 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-The-Art-of-Warhammer-Allies


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Author: whatsnewtoday@games-workshop.co.uk (Andy)]]>


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Author: whatsnewtoday@games-workshop.co.uk (Andy)]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Dealing-with-Slaan-when-running-caster-lord Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:48:18 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Dealing-with-Slaan-when-running-caster-lord http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-H-Ghouls-W-Bretonnian-Men-at-Arms-or-Skeletons Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:43:16 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-H-Ghouls-W-Bretonnian-Men-at-Arms-or-Skeletons
I would prefer to get Bretonnian Men at arms, but I will also trade for skeletons, or paypal.]]>
I would prefer to get Bretonnian Men at arms, but I will also trade for skeletons, or paypal.]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Overrun-when-unit-died-as-a-result-of-CR-crumble Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:35:49 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Overrun-when-unit-died-as-a-result-of-CR-crumble x unit wins the combat, but y unit still has models / wounds left
y unit then crumbles, consuming all remaining models / wounds

Can x unit then overrun?

We had this situation arise during a game I had earlier this week, and we debated it. We ended up asking the store manager to interpret it for us, he looked over the rulings for it and eventually decided that an overrun couldn't be conducted.

However, I wanted to check that this is the general consensus?

That x wouldn't be able to overrun if y crumbled to death.

As this will likely feature in my tactics to some level, and it'd be potentially devastating if I used it, then found out that other people play it differently]]> x unit wins the combat, but y unit still has models / wounds left
y unit then crumbles, consuming all remaining models / wounds

Can x unit then overrun?

We had this situation arise during a game I had earlier this week, and we debated it. We ended up asking the store manager to interpret it for us, he looked over the rulings for it and eventually decided that an overrun couldn't be conducted.

However, I wanted to check that this is the general consensus?

That x wouldn't be able to overrun if y crumbled to death.

As this will likely feature in my tactics to some level, and it'd be potentially devastating if I used it, then found out that other people play it differently]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-2-5k-tourny-list-new-to-the-VC Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:17:44 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-2-5k-tourny-list-new-to-the-VC would like some feedback

vamp lord - lvl3, talisman of preservation, flayed halberk, helm, dark acolyte, summon ghouls, MotBA - 450

necromancer - scroll, invocation, raise dead, van hels - 110

2 x 30 ghouls, ghast - 248 ea

14 ghouls - 112

10 dire wolves - 80

10 dire wolves - 80

4 fell bats - 80

30 grave guard - f/c, banner of barrows, gw - 465

black coach - 200

4 blood knights - muso, kastellean - 250

varghulf - 175

I imagine I'll play a castle deployment in one side of the deployment zone with a solid front line of ghouls and GG

the vamp lord sits behind the ghoul, ghoul, GG front row raising as need with the necro. The direwolves are for flanking to try and remove bonus and steadfast on units

I've tried to include "fast" stuff to counter flankers and warmachines and also to counter as my enemy smashes against the front line

in practice I've found that the lvl4 really helps the casting bonuses and the coach is great for hampering opponent magic phase. The only thing I've found the lord in vulnerable to is those bastard lore of death sniping spells - so I try and deploy far enough back to be out of range - any suggestions on counter that would be appreciated]]> would like some feedback

vamp lord - lvl3, talisman of preservation, flayed halberk, helm, dark acolyte, summon ghouls, MotBA - 450

necromancer - scroll, invocation, raise dead, van hels - 110

2 x 30 ghouls, ghast - 248 ea

14 ghouls - 112

10 dire wolves - 80

10 dire wolves - 80

4 fell bats - 80

30 grave guard - f/c, banner of barrows, gw - 465

black coach - 200

4 blood knights - muso, kastellean - 250

varghulf - 175

I imagine I'll play a castle deployment in one side of the deployment zone with a solid front line of ghouls and GG

the vamp lord sits behind the ghoul, ghoul, GG front row raising as need with the necro. The direwolves are for flanking to try and remove bonus and steadfast on units

I've tried to include "fast" stuff to counter flankers and warmachines and also to counter as my enemy smashes against the front line

in practice I've found that the lvl4 really helps the casting bonuses and the coach is great for hampering opponent magic phase. The only thing I've found the lord in vulnerable to is those bastard lore of death sniping spells - so I try and deploy far enough back to be out of range - any suggestions on counter that would be appreciated]]> http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Dispelling-Corpse-Cart-s-effect Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:14:06 +0000 http://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Dispelling-Corpse-Cart-s-effect
If I cast Corpse Cart's effect, and it effects multiple units, but they don't dispell it when it's cast.

Thus during their magic phase do they have to:

1/ Roll 3 to dispell it from ALL units

2/ Roll 3 to dispell it from EACH unit

3/ They can't dispell it since it's not specifically designated as a Remains in Play spell.

I played it as option 1, but thought I should probably check, as there's a lot of other multi unit augument spells which would also operate in the same way.]]>
If I cast Corpse Cart's effect, and it effects multiple units, but they don't dispell it when it's cast.

Thus during their magic phase do they have to:

1/ Roll 3 to dispell it from ALL units

2/ Roll 3 to dispell it from EACH unit

3/ They can't dispell it since it's not specifically designated as a Remains in Play spell.

I played it as option 1, but thought I should probably check, as there's a lot of other multi unit augument spells which would also operate in the same way.]]>