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Discussion in 'The Vampire Council II: OOC Discussion' started by Disciple of Nagash, Aug 12, 2012.

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  1. Ghouly

    Ghouly Liche True Blood

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    guys I've been looking at Graveclaws stats I think I screwed them up quite badly what do you guys think?
     
  2. Malochai

    Malochai Moderator Staff Member True Blood

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    I don't think 'quite badly' is true, but then I do think that Strength 9 is really high, even for Graveclaw, despite the fact he's an absolute brute :tongue: (I am right and it's 9 for Strength, correct?)

    Also, I think Weapon Skill 8 might be a tad too much. From what I understand of Graveclaw, he's a hack and slash kinda fellow. I wouldn't have thought there was much skill involved, more brute force, which is why a high Strength is acceptable. Whilst his WS shouldn't be LOW, I don't think it should be so high
     
  3. Ghouly

    Ghouly Liche True Blood

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    I think Graveclaw strength and toughness are fine but maybe his other states are too high, his speed is alright too
    his current stats
    Speed:upright 5 when on all fours 9, 4 when on the roof or walls
    Agility:6
    Weapon skill:8
    Ballistic skill:1
    Raw Strength:9
    Toughness:8
    Tactical Knowledge:2

    maybe this would be better
    Speed upright 5 on all fours 6 4 when on the roof or walls
    Agility:3
    Weapon skill:4
    ballistic skill:1
    Raw strength:9
    Toughness: 8
    Tactical knowledge: 2
     
  4. Get of W'soran

    Get of W'soran CN's Lord of Masks True Blood TVC II GM

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    For Graveclaw I'd imagine his WS would be 6 (push it to 7 if you want) but his technique skill would be quite low as he powers his way through most opponents. This would represent his fighting style I think?

    Toughness is fine as I imagine Graveclaw is not only tough but has high regenerative abilities.

    Strength's a little much for a 3rd gen vamp I would think but that's mostly by the newer fluff (novels etc) which Graveclaw himself predates so it could be left as fine.

    What about

    Speed upright 5 on all fours 6 4 when on the roof or walls
    Agility:3
    Weapon skill: 6 This is his ability to fight in a bestial manner which whilst deadly would be not that bad without his great strength
    Raw strength:9
    Technique Strength: 3 Graveclaw relies on brute and bestial power, not studied and learned fighting skills like a swordsman would
    Toughness: 8
    Tactical knowledge: 2

    Just a rough idea with what I mean.
     
  5. Ordo Cruentus

    Ordo Cruentus Order amongst the Dead

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    It was quite helpful, actually! :D

    So, just tentatively trying new stats based off of what you said...

    STATS AS THEY ARE NOW

    Basic Stats

    Speed: 5 (8 while on Isra)
    Agility: 7
    Weapon Skill: 8
    Ballistic Skill: 3 (4 with dueling pistols)
    Raw Strength: 5
    Technique Strength: 7 (8 with Dead Blades)
    Toughness: 5
    Tactical Knowledge: 2

    Magic
    Magical Lores Known: None
    Raw Magical Power: 0
    Magical Skill: 0

    Technology
    Skillset: Black Powder Weapons
    Skill Level: 5

    Stats as they probably SHOULD be, based off of this new information:

    Basic Stats

    Speed: 4 (8 while on Isra)
    Agility: 5
    Weapon Skill: 6
    Ballistic Skill: 3 (4 with dueling pistols)
    Raw Strength: 4
    Technique Strength: 6 (7 with Dead Blades)
    Toughness: 4
    Tactical Knowledge: 2

    Magic
    Magical Lores Known: None
    Raw Magical Power: 0
    Magical Skill: 0

    Technology
    Skillset: Black Powder Weapons
    Skill Level: 4


    Better?
     
  6. Get of W'soran

    Get of W'soran CN's Lord of Masks True Blood TVC II GM

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    I am a little in me cups so apologies if ths dosnt make sense

    Ordo, your guys "new" stats are fine for the rp, balanced and all

    But still seem quite high for someone in their early 100's and of such a low generation
    Perhaps make him older and 3rd gen?
     
  7. Get of W'soran

    Get of W'soran CN's Lord of Masks True Blood TVC II GM

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    Or 4th gen (sorry phone wouldnt let me scroll down to add that)
     
  8. Ordo Cruentus

    Ordo Cruentus Order amongst the Dead

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    I figure it balances out the complete inability to use magic.
     
  9. Malochai

    Malochai Moderator Staff Member True Blood

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    Well, I've just posted two new characters - one PC, one NPC Wight companion. Feedback would be appreciated! I spent quite a while on Cassio/Radulf, sp please be nice :clown:
     
  10. Ghouly

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    Well Graveclaw ate his sire whom was one of Usorens first gets so that gave him a big boost to his power levels
     
  11. Count Vashra

    Count Vashra Lord of Shadows True Blood

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    That's one explanation for high stats. And it fits Graveclaw's 'I hate Vampires, especially what the Carsteins did' attitude.
     
  12. the hidden one

    the hidden one Streets Ahead

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    :'(
    Just realized Igor is both a bog standard vampire and a village thug- a thugpire?
     
  13. Count Vashra

    Count Vashra Lord of Shadows True Blood

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    I'm lowering Niklaus' Technique Strength, because he's not a fighter, least of all skilled at picking out weak points. Weapon Skill may drop as well.
     
  14. Ordo Cruentus

    Ordo Cruentus Order amongst the Dead

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    Oops, forgot to edit my sheet with the new stats. All done.

    Thanks again!
     
  15. Get of W'soran

    Get of W'soran CN's Lord of Masks True Blood TVC II GM

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    I think your new stats reflect Rosa's likely level of skills much better :)

    I just re-read your bio (Love it btw! :) ), she was in the battle against Nagash?
    Did she fight in the forces of a certain Vampire Lord from the first rp out of curiousity.
     
  16. Ordo Cruentus

    Ordo Cruentus Order amongst the Dead

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    I was hoping so. But I didn't want to presume, so I was going to ask permission from other players if I was accepted.

    And thank you for the compliment on the backstory! :)
     
  17. Ghouly

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    so whats going on is the TVCII still even going?
     
  18. Mello

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    *shrugs and kicks a pebble*
     
  19. Count Vashra

    Count Vashra Lord of Shadows True Blood

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    I hope it is "sweats".
     
  20. Harland

    Harland The Colonel Staff Member True Blood

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    I believe the current status is still, "wait for DoN to get on top of his real life."
     
  21. Ordo Cruentus

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    It may suck to wait, but RL always comes first.

    Besides, we are Undead! A few centuries of waiting is nothing! ;)
     
  22. Count Vashra

    Count Vashra Lord of Shadows True Blood

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    I can wait.
     
  23. Lord_Mortis

    Lord_Mortis Crying Dude

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    I feel like what I have planned could kick start the rp again but I need to talk to DoN before doing anything.
     
  24. Harland

    Harland The Colonel Staff Member True Blood

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    If you remember, chapter 4 is effectively waiting on DoN's character to lead us on (or carry on conversing). I expect next update will be shortly after the forum software installation.
     
  25. Get of W'soran

    Get of W'soran CN's Lord of Masks True Blood TVC II GM

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    And I think Chapter 5 is stuck because we sent Igor to scout but Hidden needs to be told exactly what he sees during the scouting.
     
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