Hey there. I'm a long term VC player/collector. Though only recently started playing a game. I generally win most of my games, but thats because my opponents arent great and are jsut getting back into gaming. My last list was (most generally follow this); 2x3 Fel Bats, 3x1 Spirit hosts 1x5 hexwraith 2x 5 Direwolf, 30 Zombies, 2x30 Skeletons 1 Vampire Lord 1 Necromancer 1 Banshee 1 Black Coach, 1x2 Bat Swarm It was mostly just to play around, and not doing anything too competitive. And I'll be using the same lists in the new few games so they can get a feel for the game again. But my oppoents are brothers and have been tailoring UBER lists and testing them over the past few weeks. I want to build something pretty solid that can withstand a High Elf or Lizardman list for when the time comes. I have available, All of the above. Plus More Fel bats/Bat swarms/spirit hosts. 30 skeletons, 20 ghouls, 20 Grave Guard. 5 wraiths, another 2 vampire, 5 black knights. A terrorgeist. Unbuilt I have a Mortach, and a coven throne.. Obviously I lack the big hitters with no Crypt ghouls and Vargeists; I only ever bought models I liked the look of and they never appealed. Then with Age of sigmar I kinda lost interest. (No real plans to buy any more just yet..) So.. what would you guys suggest would be the strongest list I could build with this?