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Kings of War Background Discussion

Discussion in 'Kings of Warhammer (Mantic)' started by Grok, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. Grok

    Grok Ghoul

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    Hi Everyone,

    Yesterday I finished reading the background for Kings of War (minus each section devoted to specific armies). I know it isn't as vibrant as WFB's was, but I really liked several of the concept in here, and though I would share, and see what other's liked/disliked and noticed.

    Likes:

    - Dwarves, rather then the traditional isolationists, or declining, are a expanding empire. There is also a nice divide between different types of dwarves, imperial, free, and abyssal. There are also mention of some clans elsewhere, such as in the plains (whose name I am forgetting) with all the fractured provinces. Lots of great opportunities for different themed and painted dwarf armies, yay!

    - I quite like the dual nature of all the divine powers. Its intriguing and different.

    - Ice Elves? Awesome! Think of the awesome potential for a themed list around these. I also really like how while the elves are fractured, and declining, there is some great power there, and they are still connected by their queen and area of neutrality.

    - Humans, I LOVE the way humans are represented in this. Basically its either A the border princes, or B the overly zealous hegemony of Basillea. Lots of variation and room for expansion. The narrative isn't centered around humans, which is refreshing.

    -The background is written with lots of compelling seeds for themed allied forces, which I love. Or just variation within the same army.

    Dislikes:

    -The Abyssal rift seems a lot like the chaos waste, just not in the north. I do like the idea of abyssal princes imprisoned there/ protected there, but it expanding and corrupting outward is a little meh.

    -Orcs at least in the main background seem regulated to just being marauders and puppets. Hoping the orc specific section yields more information. I am also really hoping that the orcs and goblins in this world don't have the goofy humor of WFB versions. I know some people loved this, and at times I did to, but I would like to see a change.

    -Elves still on the decline, not just decline but twilight of their race :/. Couldn't we get say reeling from major destruction but have the potential to come back? Twilight of the race is so bleak :/


    Overall I think the background was pretty solid at left a lot of room the expand and explore.
     
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  2. Blutsauger

    Blutsauger Vampire Count True Blood

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    I really like the 'fresh' feel of the world. I like that there is so much blank space to fill in, and the various races manage to stay true to their various tropes without being stale and tired. I particularly like the Abyss, being a suitable "Chaos Wastes" analogy, without the thematic drawbacks.
     
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  3. Draykorinee

    Draykorinee Grave Guard

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    I need to get in and read it tbh, I really started to get in to the lore in Warhammer near the end.
     
  4. Oppenheimer

    Oppenheimer Crypt Horror

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    Playing Dungeon Saga. It takes place in the same world and expands the fluff a fair bit. It is making me appreciate the world more that I play it.
     
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  5. Quinten

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    Are we also discussing the quality of writing? I never realized that GW actually hired half-decent writers for the majority of their books until I read the fluff in KoW. The writing is pretty bad. I have never been a huge fluff guy but I read all the fluff in the GW books, with the KoW fluff I had to stop after nine pages because I just found it to be very poorly written.
     
  6. Blutsauger

    Blutsauger Vampire Count True Blood

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    Well, you've got to remember that GW had what, 25 years to refine their background? Back in the day it was just as rough as Kings of War. I think I like that the KoW background is written very much with the idea of it being a setting for a wargame in mind, where a lot of the WHFB stuff was written with the intent of being a story, and frankly most of them weren't very good stories.
     
  7. Quinten

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    I think you misunderstood me. I was commenting on the quality of the writing not on the plot of the stories. I feel like I'm kind of derailing this thread. Sorry. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Blutsauger

    Blutsauger Vampire Count True Blood

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    Any discussion is better than none, lol!
     
  9. Quinten

    Quinten Grave Guard

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    Yah I have noticed this forum has really died since the rants over AoS stopped.
     
  10. Draykorinee

    Draykorinee Grave Guard

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    Yeah, its tough because I loved the place before, i'd come here all the time for guidance.
     
  11. Adam_Barrow

    Adam_Barrow Sleepless Knight True Blood

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    At least the painting boards still get a little traffic. It's the horse latitudes around here.
     

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