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New AoS FAQs

Discussion in 'Understanding the Underworlds' started by Malisteen, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. Malisteen

    Malisteen Master Necromancer True Blood

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    A few notable changes:

    1: The Ring of Immortality got nerfed to hell in matched play

    IMO, our best relic is effecively dead.


    2: Tomb Heralds' bodyguard ability restricted to Liche Priests and Mummies

    This doesn't kill Heralds - in deathrattle lists their banner is still fantastic, but a herald buddy will no longer give our non-liche, non-mummy 5 wound heroes the added buffer needed to help them survive a round of sniper fire. In particularly, you can no longer use them to manage wounds on a vampire in order to get the most out of their blood chalice.


    3: Merged zombie units must still respect max unit size in matched play
    This one sounds reasonable to me, and I already played this way.


    Did anyone notice any other particularly relevant changes?
     
  2. dongilles

    dongilles Grave Guard

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    The ring one really sucks... I do not understand this change. Why would you ever use it now.
     
  3. Alabaster427

    Alabaster427 Minister of Thriftiness True Blood

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    IKR. You could just use those points for more models...
     
  4. Malisteen

    Malisteen Master Necromancer True Blood

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    Yeah, it's pretty much worthless now. At least there's still the cursed book and the tomb blade.
     
  5. Oppenheimer

    Oppenheimer Crypt Horror

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    The ring is absolutely insane decision. This is not a new unit this is an existing unit that gets 1D3 wounds back to try again.

    Our local GW store immediately house ruled that decision to be invalid so we can still use the ring as usual in our local store. That's how stupid that decision is.
     
  6. Irisado

    Irisado Ancient Vampire Lord Staff Member True Blood

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    I am also baffled by the decision to make that ruling on the Ring of Immortality. I can only surmise that they wanted to stop making it such an attractive choice, but to go to the opposite extreme is a very bad piece of FAQ implementation. It's very disappointing.
     
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  7. Infernal Skull

    Infernal Skull Wight King

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    On the bright side, the ring ruling confirms that ANY rule that replaces a destroyed unit will require reserve points. So, if High Elf players expect to resurrect a phoenix, they will need to set aside 300 points out of their list but will only get to spend them 50% of the time!

    Eat it, Phoenix Temple! :D

    But the idea of setting aside full points on an item that will return the model with D3 wounds is absurd when you could just spend those points to have a SECOND, full strength character for the ENTIRE battle, and a different magic artifact. Or in the HE example, a second Phoenix for the whole game and no resurrection.
     
  8. Aranei

    Aranei Ghoul

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    Hopes they will fix the ring, along with the summoning maybe, in General's Handbook 2.0
     
  9. Unas the slayer

    Unas the slayer Wight King

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    The only way i can see the ring still vaguely useful, is upon a low points (100) general, and just because it means that you still have the command ability and the general trait.
    But it's very situational.
    If only the cost was halved... to pay full points for a d3 wounds model makes no sense.
     
  10. Zacharias

    Zacharias Ghoul

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    I'm reading the FAQ to the generals handbook and can't find this information anywhere. Was going to give this ring to my mounted ghoul king but want to double check I can do it.
     
  11. Alabaster427

    Alabaster427 Minister of Thriftiness True Blood

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    I think it's in the Death FAQ.
     
  12. Unas the slayer

    Unas the slayer Wight King

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    it's in the General's Handbook FAQ, version 1.1
    2nd page, the last Q&A magenta colored.
     
  13. Zacharias

    Zacharias Ghoul

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    Thanks, I was still working off 1.0. That does suck and changes my entire battle plan.
     
  14. Infernal Skull

    Infernal Skull Wight King

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    If you're looking at the FAQs, you need to go to the Warhammer Community site. I don't think the GW site Rules Errata page has the updated FAQ for the General's Handbook yet.
     
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