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Initiative is the problem here. The Necrotic could well be dead before the unit he's in gets to strike, wasting the hatred and pts. MWBD offers some defense in the way of getting hit less via the higher WS of the unit. With access to Van Hels, and the ability to equip the TP/TK defensively, you...
Get that Vamp charmed shield. If your VL is 3" away frim either HW unit, he may take a 4+ LoS. I've run this to great effect, albeit before the dawn of Storm fiends. Get those HW to seven though and maybe drop the Hellwraiths? You can certainly get Hard Cover from the HW or Vargs, but keep that...
Looks fun, I'd say drop those Black Knights and grab a wraith and a Spirit host. Guessing you're going for the 4up LoS shenanigans with the HW, if that's the case beef those 2 units up to 7 with the BK points. Remember you won't get a LoS as it is from the HW.
It's a keen idea, but as you alluded to, you're paying a heavy premium for that lore and the number of caster's to boost your banishments. I believe the light council should be bunkered up and used as a Magic Missile center of your army. It's counter intuitive to dump those points into combat...
Just jumping in here having not read the entire thread. I think the traditional BK bus is sorta dead. With Storm Fiends, Lore of Metal, Light Councils, etc running rampant there's just not enough wounds to get those Vamps into Combat. I've never been a big fan of the cav bus, I like the skelly...
Happy to help! Now... Don't have the current ETC draft in front of me, but... (In Darth Vader voice) Your lack of Fell Bats is disturbing. Are you maxed at flying units/qb/rf? That leftover 14pts + dropping that SH = 2 units of Fell bats. Imagine for a second... Your VL declares a charge...
Let me chime in... Not sure where your list is at presently, got lost in the muck. But... I prefer the banshees in units opposed to Wraiths. Sure, wraiths have more attacks, but the scream although not dependable when it works it works wonders. I'd also go CH over Harbs and maybe lose a varg to...
Alabaster427 sums it up. There is a glaring loophole with regards to logic, I would say in friendly games, no. However, some tourneys or gt's may rule that it is possible...when in rome!
Without getting in to great detail, I will say it's a bit ridiculous to pair opponents or grant handicap based on a system that itself is not balanced in the least. You can game Swedish comp. In uncomped, everything is fair game and there is a bit of rock/paper/scissors if you build skew lists...
Swedish puts the smack on VC for sure. The Swedish comp pack I believe is designed to encourage players to use different units, different char. builds, etc... Let's be honest.... VC have very few legitimate choices in competitive play. Some of which are completely neutered by a 5 pt weapon...
RAW, RAI, etc... I personally wouldn't employ such a strategy in friendly games, BUT... if a tourney or GT rules it this way, as most around me have, then "When in Rome..." Daisy chain away! It's really brutal.
It follows the rules for templates, so rider and monster are hit. If its a cannonball, it hits both. If it's a stone thrower, you randomize which "model" is under the hole, but both are hit.
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