- May 6, 2014
- 582
So the initial reaction to these things was special/rare high t/ws/s/m 80pts
Note the bold. It seems they were completely written off on price tag alone. Not a monster? more than 50 points? TOTAL CRAP.
Which is an odd way of thinking.
Looking at their statlines, at worst you are essentially buying (in rare) what amounts to two varghulfs for less then the price of one, with better special rules. Or (in special) really tanky varghiests. Again with better special rules.
Shooting heavy army? yeah i think I'll take 3 tanky harbingers over 5 varghiests/varghast. Chaff heavy army that redirects my frenzy easily? Same reasoning.
Even the tbat could move over. 3 archai have the same combat ability of a tbat, for less cost, smaller target, more bulk, and killing blow, all for the cost of a tbat scream. Which vs a high leadership army doesn't even do as much as those 3 more attacks that the archai get over the bat.
They are monstrous infantry, but I think we need to look at them less as a unit of infantry, and more as a unit of monsters. Seriously 90 point varghulf.
Thoughts?
Edit: the thought of thunderstomps vs stomps dawns on me, but the reasoning is still sound for how much less you pay.
Note the bold. It seems they were completely written off on price tag alone. Not a monster? more than 50 points? TOTAL CRAP.
Which is an odd way of thinking.
Looking at their statlines, at worst you are essentially buying (in rare) what amounts to two varghulfs for less then the price of one, with better special rules. Or (in special) really tanky varghiests. Again with better special rules.
Shooting heavy army? yeah i think I'll take 3 tanky harbingers over 5 varghiests/varghast. Chaff heavy army that redirects my frenzy easily? Same reasoning.
Even the tbat could move over. 3 archai have the same combat ability of a tbat, for less cost, smaller target, more bulk, and killing blow, all for the cost of a tbat scream. Which vs a high leadership army doesn't even do as much as those 3 more attacks that the archai get over the bat.
They are monstrous infantry, but I think we need to look at them less as a unit of infantry, and more as a unit of monsters. Seriously 90 point varghulf.
Thoughts?
Edit: the thought of thunderstomps vs stomps dawns on me, but the reasoning is still sound for how much less you pay.