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Preview of the FEC rules :)
Looks really nice and fluff :)
Looks really nice and fluff :)
I love those rules! Really happy to see a resource lile Noble Deeds to trigger various effects. It will be a cool and I think balanced mechanic to play with.
And the first undead priest confirmed :)
Hail our lord and savior Nagash Jesus! :D
Hail our lord and savior Nagash Jesus! :D
- Sep 23, 2009
- 2,634
Neat stuff, although it does look like the end of the current version of feeding frenzy, which last I checked (I haven't touched fec in a good long while, so I might be remembering wrong) the present incarnation of FEC relies on pretty heavily. The new version - a conditional attack buff which may be someone tricky to activate - looks to be a lot weaker. I'd be more worried about that, but we're looking at practically a whole new army, I'm not sure comparisons to the current FEC rules are at all meaningful.
Oppenheimer
Varghulf
- May 26, 2013
- 713
About time! I really feel like the underuse Priest. It's nice to have some variety in abilities in the hero phase.
- Sep 23, 2009
- 2,634
FEC Fomo box goes up for preorder next weekend. It includes their warscroll card pack, which in turn implies that we've probably seen all the new units with no additional reveal yet to see, and also no removal of existing units, unless by coincidence there are exactly as many unrevealed releases as retired units, or else any unrevealed releases /replace/ existing models.
I'm a little disappointed by that though, as I was hoping for some units to be removed outright (generic courtiers) or rolled together (abhorrant ghoul king on foot and abhorrent archregeant aren't different enough in function or concept to be two different units, and 'Duke Crackmarrow' honestly just shouldn't be a separate unit from his underworlds warband - they'd play better and make more sense as a single unit, like the warcry warband).
It looks like they'll still be telling people to pick single models out of ghoul, horror, and flayer units to count as key support heroes when those units can only be fielded in exact multiples of their box size, and if that's true it will sour my opinion on the entire release.
I'm a little disappointed by that though, as I was hoping for some units to be removed outright (generic courtiers) or rolled together (abhorrant ghoul king on foot and abhorrent archregeant aren't different enough in function or concept to be two different units, and 'Duke Crackmarrow' honestly just shouldn't be a separate unit from his underworlds warband - they'd play better and make more sense as a single unit, like the warcry warband).
It looks like they'll still be telling people to pick single models out of ghoul, horror, and flayer units to count as key support heroes when those units can only be fielded in exact multiples of their box size, and if that's true it will sour my opinion on the entire release.
I tend to agree, but we know Nagash revels in the suffering of his minions, so it seems strange that FEC is immune. I believe they all share some moments of clarity when they realize their fate and what horror they have become. Then the cicle begins again.
Thats super dark, I love it!
Is it really such a big problem? To be honest I dont care at all about not having individual models for the courtiers, I just see it as an amazing conversion opportunity :) For instance I bought Duke Crack just to use him as a courtier.
- Sep 23, 2009
- 2,634
Preview article on FEC lore is up:
I'll have some updating to do for my big undead lore pile, including updating some second edition stuff, as the new book retcons in some lore for Ushoran during the soul wars - discovered in Ghyran by agents of Neferata, re-imprisoned by Nagash in a great bone palisade, only for that wall to crumble and let him back out after Nagash's fall and Alarielle's Rite of Life.
We also seem to have an Ushoran who is fully loyal to Nagash and his fellow mortarchs, at least so long as his delusions hold, but with hints that he might be plotting to undermine them in his more lucid moments, which leaves some nice room for intrigue.
As one would expect the FEC courts have taken to the Age of Beasts better than most other undead factions thanks to Mordants not being truely dead and thus being energized rather than suppressed by Alarielle's Rite of Life. Again, this was expected going into 3rd edition. It's a shame they're really only getting into it now in the build up to 4th edition, but I don't think the transition from 3rd to 4th is going to see the same sort of major shake up to the cosmology that we saw in the transition from 1st to 2nd or from 2nd to 3rd.
From what I can tell, the (temporary) defeat of Nagash & Arkhan, ascention of Morathi, escape of Kragnos, and surge of Life Magic will still be the dominant influences on the overall setting in 4th edition. Maybe the writers will even remember that Be'Lakor cut off access to the entire Realm of Metal and spread a shroud of darkness across the space between the realms? That was kind of a big deal, but seems to have been largely forgotten by the narrative. Anyway, I expect the main change from 3rd will be pulling the focus back to look at how the other Realms have been reacting to these events, where 3e was focused tightly on just the Realm of Beasts.
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EDIT: Also, I miscounted existing warscrolls when checking if there might be further changes, in that I left out the new herald hero on account of he's still not in the app. That means if we count all the existing scrolls plus the new ones, we're actually one over on total number of warscrolls, so at least one current unit is getting dropped and/or folded into another unit. IMO likely options include:
1. regular ghoul courtier could be dropped / folded into the herald
2. infantry ghoul king and archregent could be folded together.
3. Duke Crackmarrow could be part of the Grymwatch instead of a separate warscroll.
4. The charnel throne faction terrain might just be dropped. It never looked very good and has been perpetually out of stock pretty much since it came out.
EDIT: Battle report on warhammer tv confirms Charnel Throne is still a thing.
I'll have some updating to do for my big undead lore pile, including updating some second edition stuff, as the new book retcons in some lore for Ushoran during the soul wars - discovered in Ghyran by agents of Neferata, re-imprisoned by Nagash in a great bone palisade, only for that wall to crumble and let him back out after Nagash's fall and Alarielle's Rite of Life.
We also seem to have an Ushoran who is fully loyal to Nagash and his fellow mortarchs, at least so long as his delusions hold, but with hints that he might be plotting to undermine them in his more lucid moments, which leaves some nice room for intrigue.
As one would expect the FEC courts have taken to the Age of Beasts better than most other undead factions thanks to Mordants not being truely dead and thus being energized rather than suppressed by Alarielle's Rite of Life. Again, this was expected going into 3rd edition. It's a shame they're really only getting into it now in the build up to 4th edition, but I don't think the transition from 3rd to 4th is going to see the same sort of major shake up to the cosmology that we saw in the transition from 1st to 2nd or from 2nd to 3rd.
From what I can tell, the (temporary) defeat of Nagash & Arkhan, ascention of Morathi, escape of Kragnos, and surge of Life Magic will still be the dominant influences on the overall setting in 4th edition. Maybe the writers will even remember that Be'Lakor cut off access to the entire Realm of Metal and spread a shroud of darkness across the space between the realms? That was kind of a big deal, but seems to have been largely forgotten by the narrative. Anyway, I expect the main change from 3rd will be pulling the focus back to look at how the other Realms have been reacting to these events, where 3e was focused tightly on just the Realm of Beasts.
...
EDIT: Also, I miscounted existing warscrolls when checking if there might be further changes, in that I left out the new herald hero on account of he's still not in the app. That means if we count all the existing scrolls plus the new ones, we're actually one over on total number of warscrolls, so at least one current unit is getting dropped and/or folded into another unit. IMO likely options include:
1. regular ghoul courtier could be dropped / folded into the herald
2. infantry ghoul king and archregent could be folded together.
3. Duke Crackmarrow could be part of the Grymwatch instead of a separate warscroll.
EDIT: Battle report on warhammer tv confirms Charnel Throne is still a thing.
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- Sep 23, 2009
- 2,634
Also some of the new FEC art in the lore article is fantastic:
Look at this battle scene!
Firelink Shrine vibes!
A ghoul king captured by a glance in a broken mirror, seeing a reflection of the man he imagines himself to be, highlighting how the delusions angle can be played for pathos and tragedy as well as for comedy!
Really fantastic stuff. It was a long time coming, and even a year ago I'd have told you that ghouls didn't really deserve to be their own faction and would be better off dropped or folded back into SBGL. But they're really knocking it out of the park with this release. The lore, the art, the feel, the models, absolutely tremendous work all round. I guess we've yet to see on the rules, but even if they drop the ball there it hardly matters. The rules are the least important part of the whole pile, since the core game's getting ready for a new edition anyway and faction rules and points get rebalanced multiple times a year these days.
Look at this battle scene!
Firelink Shrine vibes!
A ghoul king captured by a glance in a broken mirror, seeing a reflection of the man he imagines himself to be, highlighting how the delusions angle can be played for pathos and tragedy as well as for comedy!
Really fantastic stuff. It was a long time coming, and even a year ago I'd have told you that ghouls didn't really deserve to be their own faction and would be better off dropped or folded back into SBGL. But they're really knocking it out of the park with this release. The lore, the art, the feel, the models, absolutely tremendous work all round. I guess we've yet to see on the rules, but even if they drop the ball there it hardly matters. The rules are the least important part of the whole pile, since the core game's getting ready for a new edition anyway and faction rules and points get rebalanced multiple times a year these days.
Oppenheimer
Varghulf
- May 26, 2013
- 713
New preview of some rules :)
Source : https://www.warhammer-community.com...-play-on-this-weeks-edition-of-battle-report/
Source : https://www.warhammer-community.com...-play-on-this-weeks-edition-of-battle-report/