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Blackadder's FW Chaos Warhound Build

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Blackadder's FW Chaos Warhound Build

I debated whether to append this to the Lucius scratchbuilt Warhound thread or start a new thread. There will be a side by side comparison of Lucie my scratchbuilt to the various components of an actual Forge World titan which should prove interesting and hopefully I will not be tearing out too much hair over grievous discrepancies.

I opted for the Chaos version because considering FW's propensity for less than perfect castings I figured this would be so much less noticeable on something that is supposed to be outrageously deformed.

That and I just think the Chaos version is the more interesting of the Mars Pattern.

I'll be posting images as soon as I get over the initial excitement of ownership of a real FW Warhound.
 
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Below is the initial opening of the shipment carton with the top sheet of bubble wrap removed. I suppose FW tested the durability of the various pieces of brittle resin and arrived at the optimum packaging and shipping procedure that all components survive the ministrations of the erstwhile UPS package handlers.

To the untrained eye the contents look like they were unceremoniously just dumped into the box.
http://i.imgur.com/vIdWF.jpg


Unpacking the container revealed the only thing reasonably protected was the instructions and certificate of ownership.
http://i.imgur.com/p3wCM.jpg
 
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The first order of business and to address something I am dying to know is how well did my best guesstimate of the size and shape of the weapons compare to a FW original? I had to use my best estimate in relative size for virtually all aspects of my scratchbuilt Wolf Warhound having never seen one in the flesh ..er ah resin that is and it has always been a source of consternation how Lucie would measure up to the real McCoy.

I know even from the pictures later acquired on the web that Lucie has more robust legs in cross-section than the regulation titan and that changes I made to the carapace and hull give her a more massive appearance but that was intentional. The major concern was the weapons, head, waist and feet.


http://i.imgur.com/70y20.jpg


Well for the weapons at least........... aside from the caliber of the megabolter its a pretty good match


http://i.imgur.com/kb0Ik.jpg


I am very please that there is no significant discrepancy, whew!
 
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An addenda to the last post, there is significant difference with my turbo laser compared to the FW original. It appears my laser's caliber is less than and (this really gets me) my infrared sight is longer?

Referring to the bottom view I had no image to go by so my detail is sparse compared to the real McCoy. But I think I can live with it.

http://i.imgur.com/6v0xz.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/6u38y.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/sfmaO.jpg


More comparisons to follow even if they reveal further discrepancies.

:Blush
 
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Since the image host I was using no longer supports my images I have to repost a lot of the lost work on this new host.

I took new pictures and am incorporating the renovation modifications to Lucie so as not to bore those that have seen the original posts

I am also including a side by side comparison with a FW original albeit a Chaos Mars Pattern bit the mechanical components are virtually the same.

http://i.imgur.com/6DG2V.jpg


First the head, the strange rings behind the head are the gymbal I made to allow the head to swivel back and forth and up and down a feature not included in the FW model but hey they included an interior!

Next a profile view of the neck mechanism and head with a relative size comparison:

http://i.imgur.com/zWG7g.jpg


Finally a closer view of the neck pieces, what the hey I took the picture why not post it:

http://i.imgur.com/EX6s4.jpg
 
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It's not that hard; I neglected to explain how it works:

I used 1.25 dia PVC tubing coupling fitting cut in half crosswise and two thin rings of tubing as races to trap the ball.

The ball is a 1.25" wooden drawer knob from a craft store such as 'Michaels' or AC Moore or Hobby Lobby.

I beveled the thin rings and glued the outer ring to the coupling installed the ball and press fitted the inner ring to supply tension to the ball.

I then threaded the ball onto the neck stud.

The whole mechanism fits into a denuded (I sanded off the fuzz with a belt sander old paint roller plastic sleeve that I use to insure a roughed fit into the foam core hull opening (I'll never use foam board again) intending to glue it in but it wasn't necessary and I left it loose in case I work up the ambition to install lights on Lucie.
 

Count Darvaleth

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"Detail is sparse"?! "Further discrepancies"?!

Blackadder, your scratch-builds are uncannily similar to the FW ones! It's quite freaky, and you're doing yourself a gross dishonour with these comments. I commend you for your Britishness in this aspect (assuming, with your username and manner, that you are British!), but you really mustn't put yourself down too much. It makes the rest of us look even more like babbling, bumbling baboons in comparison. (And, when comparing our skill to yours, there certainly are "discrepancies"...!) :clown:
 

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Count Darvaleth said:
"Detail is sparse"?! "Further discrepancies"?!

Blackadder, your scratch-builds are uncannily similar to the FW ones! It's quite freaky, and you're doing yourself a gross dishonour with these comments......you really mustn't put yourself down too much. It makes the rest of us look even more like babbling, bumbling baboons in comparison. (And, when comparing our skill to yours, there certainly are "discrepancies"...!) :clown:
I felt the need to echo this as it nails my feelings as well. The work you've put in is stunning and the imagination/engineering aspect blows my mind. Keep up the amazing work.
 
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Well here it is; the first documented proof of insanity in my family. Not only have I purchased a Chaos Warhound for my son last Christmas but I bid and won one for myself just recently and to compound the mania I bid on a Lucius Pattern Wolf Warhound from Russia and I won that one as well. Someone stop me before I can no longer afford to support the national debt.............

Now I'm gonna have to sell my kids for scientific experiments............

On the plus side I do have a comparison of my scratch work to a real bona fide Lucius Pattern Warhound............

On the minus side there are discrepancies.:(

http://i.imgur.com/otufW.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/N0FiK


http://i.imgur.com/NYBk7.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/3RZZj.jpg
 

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Those are some pretty minor discrepancies for something made from scratch blackadder, your accuracy is spectacular!

And who knows... maybe the experiments will lead to your children gaining some sort of super powers! :tongue:
 
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You know my position on forging and copyright violations and hell I don't even buy 'Luk' gasoline.

I looked the images over closely on ebay and other than the resin colour which FW used for some of their models (I have a FW Baneblade cast in Axson F16, resin that I'm sure isn't a forgery). I certainly didn't want a knockoff inferior casting.

If you look closely in the far right of the image there are what appears to be the conduits cast in black neoprene and the cooling compartment screen of the proper size and shape. as the original FW models used to come with; not cast resin as they do now.



On receiving the model my son and I inspected the pieces carefully for evidence of recasting but: all the pieces were there, were crisp edged, not warped, and fit perfectly together with no bubbles or missing detail (Hmmm that should have been a clue; FW models don't ever arrive like that.)

If its a copy its damned better than the average original.

I took it to be that someone bought it a while ago, saw it was beyond their modeling ability and wisely put it aside instead of botching it up and finally decided to liquidate it for financial reasons.

Now I see that theres another from the same seller using exactly the same image..............

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-Forge-World-LUCIUS-PATTERN-WARHOUND-TITAN-WOLF-PLASMA-TURBO-LASER-/251191546051?pt=Games_US&hash=item3a7c2ed0c3

which has aroused my suspicions.

Other than the weird colour (the actual model is a much more beige hue similar to the production Baneblade) What is it to you that indicates it is an illegal cast :question:?.
 

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Mmmmm, it really does look dodgy.
Best thing I would say is to take pictures of it, contact forge world about it, show them, get them to say as much, confront the seller via ebay, get a refund and pass his details to forge world.
It is a ebay store and odds are he knows very well what he is doing even if he has yet to master the art of the spell check.

I really hate people making fake models, I still remember getting blue plastic marines..... :swear:

I mean look at the guys feed back:

"Items are counterfit and very poor quality. Buyer: stoicesque ( 266) Jul-31-12 04:47
Warhammer Forge World KRIEG HEAVY BOLTER SQUAD (#251098562165) US $50.00"

Feed Back


It always surprises me though they still turn out better than what GW and FW make though..... :rolleyes:
 
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Its time gentlemen for another helpful hint from Héloise AKA the Blackadder.

Today regarding a bit kitchen esoterica known as a 'melon baller'. This device serves the useless purpose of gouging out spheroid shaped lumps of melon thereby rendering half the consumable portion melon as waste and also eliminating the hazard of a diner cutting his mouth on a sharp edged piece of melon that has been cut into bite-sized but unsightly non-standardized cubes.



Let us now see if this rather superfluous device can be employed to a useful purpose.

As you know I am pathologically fixated on making the joints of my model movable (for whatever purpose but the fun is in stimulating my brain cells with these little problems).

I have searched the hardware stores for thin hollow steel spheres to incorporate into the articulated sockets of the various pieces of model joints.

While clearing out the kitchen drawer I found this little gadget that I don't believe I have ever seen used.

What ho sayeth I, the very thing I seek what's more they are readily available in dollar stores, Amazon and ebay all for a couple of buck each including shipping............ I found the yellow handled one for $1.25 plus shipping $1.63

Just the thing to partner the rare earth magnets installed in the opposite component of the socket.

http://i.imgur.com/PG5KD.jpg


BTW the brown smutchz in the cup is rust.......... Rust is good; it means the steel is magnetic.

i.imgur.com/CKjgC.jpg




keep you eyes open and check wifey's equipment stash. She may have just what you are looking for............. Ahem..........
 
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