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Malochai

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I don't think 'quite badly' is true, but then I do think that Strength 9 is really high, even for Graveclaw, despite the fact he's an absolute brute :tongue: (I am right and it's 9 for Strength, correct?)

Also, I think Weapon Skill 8 might be a tad too much. From what I understand of Graveclaw, he's a hack and slash kinda fellow. I wouldn't have thought there was much skill involved, more brute force, which is why a high Strength is acceptable. Whilst his WS shouldn't be LOW, I don't think it should be so high
 

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I think Graveclaw strength and toughness are fine but maybe his other states are too high, his speed is alright too
his current stats
Speed:upright 5 when on all fours 9, 4 when on the roof or walls
Agility:6
Weapon skill:8
Ballistic skill:1
Raw Strength:9
Toughness:8
Tactical Knowledge:2

maybe this would be better
Speed upright 5 on all fours 6 4 when on the roof or walls
Agility:3
Weapon skill:4
ballistic skill:1
Raw strength:9
Toughness: 8
Tactical knowledge: 2
 

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For Graveclaw I'd imagine his WS would be 6 (push it to 7 if you want) but his technique skill would be quite low as he powers his way through most opponents. This would represent his fighting style I think?

Toughness is fine as I imagine Graveclaw is not only tough but has high regenerative abilities.

Strength's a little much for a 3rd gen vamp I would think but that's mostly by the newer fluff (novels etc) which Graveclaw himself predates so it could be left as fine.

Speed upright 5 on all fours 6 4 when on the roof or walls
Agility:3
Weapon skill:4
ballistic skill:1
Raw strength:9
Toughness: 8
Tactical knowledge: 2
What about

Speed upright 5 on all fours 6 4 when on the roof or walls
Agility:3
Weapon skill: 6 This is his ability to fight in a bestial manner which whilst deadly would be not that bad without his great strength
Raw strength:9
Technique Strength: 3 Graveclaw relies on brute and bestial power, not studied and learned fighting skills like a swordsman would
Toughness: 8
Tactical knowledge: 2

Just a rough idea with what I mean.
 

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Harland said:
SNIPPED GOODNESS

Hope this was helpful!
It was quite helpful, actually! :D

So, just tentatively trying new stats based off of what you said...

STATS AS THEY ARE NOW

Basic Stats

Speed: 5 (8 while on Isra)
Agility: 7
Weapon Skill: 8
Ballistic Skill: 3 (4 with dueling pistols)
Raw Strength: 5
Technique Strength: 7 (8 with Dead Blades)
Toughness: 5
Tactical Knowledge: 2

Magic
Magical Lores Known: None
Raw Magical Power: 0
Magical Skill: 0

Technology
Skillset: Black Powder Weapons
Skill Level: 5

Stats as they probably SHOULD be, based off of this new information:

Basic Stats

Speed: 4 (8 while on Isra)
Agility: 5
Weapon Skill: 6
Ballistic Skill: 3 (4 with dueling pistols)
Raw Strength: 4
Technique Strength: 6 (7 with Dead Blades)
Toughness: 4
Tactical Knowledge: 2

Magic
Magical Lores Known: None
Raw Magical Power: 0
Magical Skill: 0

Technology
Skillset: Black Powder Weapons
Skill Level: 4


Better?
 

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Ordo snippy snip
I am a little in me cups so apologies if ths dosnt make sense

Ordo, your guys "new" stats are fine for the rp, balanced and all

But still seem quite high for someone in their early 100's and of such a low generation
Perhaps make him older and 3rd gen?
 

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Well, I've just posted two new characters - one PC, one NPC Wight companion. Feedback would be appreciated! I spent quite a while on Cassio/Radulf, sp please be nice :clown:
 

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Well Graveclaw ate his sire whom was one of Usorens first gets so that gave him a big boost to his power levels
 

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That's one explanation for high stats. And it fits Graveclaw's 'I hate Vampires, especially what the Carsteins did' attitude.
 
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Harland said:
I think the ratings break down something like this:


1. Joe bloggs
2. Percy the village thug
3. Skilled veteran
4. Your bog standard vampire
5. Average vampire lord, i.e. the mode of vampires who have (un)lived for centuries.
6. Dedicated martial vampire.
7. Has spent centuries honing his skill.
8. Absolute master of battle, could defeat you with his pinkie
9. Once captured a fortress by accident
10. This planet only exists because he can't be bothered to get out of bed

Hope this was helpful!
:'(
Just realized Igor is both a bog standard vampire and a village thug- a thugpire?
 

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I'm lowering Niklaus' Technique Strength, because he's not a fighter, least of all skilled at picking out weak points. Weapon Skill may drop as well.
 

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Ordo Cruentus said:
Oops, forgot to edit my sheet with the new stats. All done.

Thanks again!
I think your new stats reflect Rosa's likely level of skills much better :)

I just re-read your bio (Love it btw! :) ), she was in the battle against Nagash?
Did she fight in the forces of a certain Vampire Lord from the first rp out of curiousity.
 

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I was hoping so. But I didn't want to presume, so I was going to ask permission from other players if I was accepted.

And thank you for the compliment on the backstory! :)
 

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If you remember, chapter 4 is effectively waiting on DoN's character to lead us on (or carry on conversing). I expect next update will be shortly after the forum software installation.
 

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And I think Chapter 5 is stuck because we sent Igor to scout but Hidden needs to be told exactly what he sees during the scouting.
 
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