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Kings of War Background Discussion

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#1
Hi Everyone,

Yesterday I finished reading the background for Kings of War (minus each section devoted to specific armies). I know it isn't as vibrant as WFB's was, but I really liked several of the concept in here, and though I would share, and see what other's liked/disliked and noticed.

Likes:

- Dwarves, rather then the traditional isolationists, or declining, are a expanding empire. There is also a nice divide between different types of dwarves, imperial, free, and abyssal. There are also mention of some clans elsewhere, such as in the plains (whose name I am forgetting) with all the fractured provinces. Lots of great opportunities for different themed and painted dwarf armies, yay!

- I quite like the dual nature of all the divine powers. Its intriguing and different.

- Ice Elves? Awesome! Think of the awesome potential for a themed list around these. I also really like how while the elves are fractured, and declining, there is some great power there, and they are still connected by their queen and area of neutrality.

- Humans, I LOVE the way humans are represented in this. Basically its either A the border princes, or B the overly zealous hegemony of Basillea. Lots of variation and room for expansion. The narrative isn't centered around humans, which is refreshing.

-The background is written with lots of compelling seeds for themed allied forces, which I love. Or just variation within the same army.

Dislikes:

-The Abyssal rift seems a lot like the chaos waste, just not in the north. I do like the idea of abyssal princes imprisoned there/ protected there, but it expanding and corrupting outward is a little meh.

-Orcs at least in the main background seem regulated to just being marauders and puppets. Hoping the orc specific section yields more information. I am also really hoping that the orcs and goblins in this world don't have the goofy humor of WFB versions. I know some people loved this, and at times I did to, but I would like to see a change.

-Elves still on the decline, not just decline but twilight of their race :/. Couldn't we get say reeling from major destruction but have the potential to come back? Twilight of the race is so bleak :/


Overall I think the background was pretty solid at left a lot of room the expand and explore.
 

Blutsauger

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#2
I really like the 'fresh' feel of the world. I like that there is so much blank space to fill in, and the various races manage to stay true to their various tropes without being stale and tired. I particularly like the Abyss, being a suitable "Chaos Wastes" analogy, without the thematic drawbacks.
 

Draykorinee

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#3
I need to get in and read it tbh, I really started to get in to the lore in Warhammer near the end.
 

Oppenheimer

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#4
Playing Dungeon Saga. It takes place in the same world and expands the fluff a fair bit. It is making me appreciate the world more that I play it.
 
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Quinten

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#5
Are we also discussing the quality of writing? I never realized that GW actually hired half-decent writers for the majority of their books until I read the fluff in KoW. The writing is pretty bad. I have never been a huge fluff guy but I read all the fluff in the GW books, with the KoW fluff I had to stop after nine pages because I just found it to be very poorly written.
 

Blutsauger

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#6
Well, you've got to remember that GW had what, 25 years to refine their background? Back in the day it was just as rough as Kings of War. I think I like that the KoW background is written very much with the idea of it being a setting for a wargame in mind, where a lot of the WHFB stuff was written with the intent of being a story, and frankly most of them weren't very good stories.
 

Quinten

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#7
I think you misunderstood me. I was commenting on the quality of the writing not on the plot of the stories. I feel like I'm kind of derailing this thread. Sorry. :rolleyes:
 
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