The COVID Thread

Belladamma Voltaire

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Greetings,

So many of us at the moment are living in the uncertain spectre of COVID-19 and within the world at large there has been so much dramatic change over the past 18 months (how has it only been that long?) that there have been questions raised on what society and functionality looks like now we have determined some new basic ideas. These are my own key takeaways but I am interested in what you have taken away through living through a time likely to be as intensely studied as the world wars were.


1) A 9-5 Office job is not even the best way of working an office job now

Something I have found, as many have is that working from home alone or with other members of your household does not necessarily majorly impact on the wider ability of people to do work. This point also serves as a way of demonstrating that people do, by and large, want to work and will do so when trusted. Does this mean the death of those days of endless pointless scrolling at your desk or in your booth? Absolutely not, but the flipside is you can now work when you are actually going to work well. For those with flexibility, we can work during our peak performance times and get to other things when the ebb and flow dampens slightly. I am not looking forward to going back to offices.

2) Bar and pub culture as was, is dead, and should remain that way

Being able to sit in a pub or bar and have someone bring you drinks without the need for the mad hullabaloo at the bar has been an absolutely god send and being able to split bills more effectively and use both mine and the bar staffs time more efficiently is not something I think should end. I understand there is the comradery of being able to speak to new people at a bar but honestly, I think this is besides the point now and even if you are going out on the "pull" there should be a venue between bar and night club which is mostly about being able to soak in the atmosphere without the worry of being over packed or trampled.

3) Lockdowns has run it's course now

This is more a symptom of the news and the scaremongering of the press in the UK in my opinion but people will blindly follow if they believe it to be "safe" even without actually looking at the merits of something being safe or otherwise. The extension on the UK Lockdowns, in my opinion, does not make sense given that we have data showing that those affected by COVID post vaccine are less at risk and less likely to be hospitalised and by extending lockdowns indefinitely, the scaremongering is turning the public against those who apply academic critical thinking to situations where it is actually warranted. I am personally of the opinion now that the high risk categories are majority vaccinated or have been offered them that we do not need lockdown to continue further in the UK. I say this as someone who lost family to COVID too

4) I haven't had a cold in over a year

Something really astute I observed is that with the measures in place for facial coverings, that I have not had the common cold in the past 18 months. This really does demonstrate how much the public is actually cross contagious with anything and how something as simple as a mask can be beneficial to all in the long run. They should just be mandatory in situations where people are stuck within an enclosed space with constant variables for travelling, such as buses, trains and trams.

5) Everyone you thought you knew, were liars.

Throughout the lockdown, friendships have been tested and views aired which have been surprising to us all. We found out who was willing to make the effort with us individually and as a result of that, I feel like I know who my friends are and who was just piecemeal around for anything but being a proper friend. This has been somewhat lonely in places as I found that I actually thought about those friendships more and seeing what the colours of people are when they became hyper realised versions of themselves due to their spending so much time alone without normal social cues.

So thats just some of my thoughts from COVID so far. Had my first jab this week and now got to wait until September for jab 2.
 
2) Bar and pub culture as was, is dead, and should remain that way

Being able to sit in a pub or bar and have someone bring you drinks without the need for the mad hullabaloo at the bar has been an absolutely god send and being able to split bills more effectively and use both mine and the bar staffs time more efficiently is not something I think should end. I understand there is the comradery of being able to speak to new people at a bar but honestly, I think this is besides the point now and even if you are going out on the "pull" there should be a venue between bar and night club which is mostly about being able to soak in the atmosphere without the worry of being over packed or trampled.

eh, i don't know about this.
In the exact moment the restrictions went down, pubs and bar suddenly were crowded once again with flocks of people with their masks kept on the chin.
 
I know, I've seen it. Doesnt stop me thinking that there needs to be something inbetween with a bit more control than how things were previously.

Sure, i totally agree.
I hope there won't be a turning back to the old habits as if nothing ever happened
 
1) A 9-5 Office job is not even the best way of working an office job now
I would challenge that it's not the only way of working an office job, but I think it has challenged organisations who didn't trust or think they could work remotely. Many I'm seeing now are offering much more remote working as they see some productivity benefits etc. There are still challenges, especially around building teams and resolving issues that work better face to face. I consult in IT, and personally I think a blended approach of at least 1 day in the office per week for workshops etc is beneficial

2) Bar and pub culture as was, is dead, and should remain that way
I don't think it is. I think as people get more confidence many will come to appreciate what was taken from them. I do agree there has been another potential avenue opened as you described, but I don't think they will become the norm

3) Lockdowns has run it's course now
I disagree on this one, due to the new Indian variant which is much more transmissible. It makes sense to me that there is the push to vaccinate those group who do tend to congregate more to try and break that vector for transmission. I don't think we should revert, but I think large scale groups should be held off.

4) I haven't had a cold in over a year
Lucky! My other half works in a primary school which is a hotbed of germs, so it's been normal for me. Although my hayfever is playing up worse and I wonder if that is due to me spending more time in doors?

5) Everyone you thought you knew, were liars.
Yes, it has been an interesting challenge, and I've found out some unexpected facets of friends under this situation. I'm not sure if they were liars per se, but their reactions under pressure and restrictions certainly surfaced different sides of them!
 
As someone who works for AAA (American Automotive Association) Northeast in the Emergency Roadside Department (TL;DR: I'm a call center worker for emergency services), there's something to be said about all of this:

People don't take care of their shit during Quarantine!

The amount of people I've had call in saying "My AAA battery is dead, I haven't used my car in a year, can you come and replace it?" and then get utterly incensed when told that what they did voided the warranty (yes, that's one of the "Voids Warranty" clauses on our batteries) is hilarious. 😅

Also, yeah. You really get to see people's true colours because of this. The amount of people I've had that go from 0 to 100% when you tell them we can't do X is... Astounding

It's also proven to me that the companies that do the whole "Oh, we don't need to have as many permanents because we can just hire temps to cover when it's busy!" are run a bunch of morons in that department. Because the division of AAA I work for didn't do ANY temp hiring during the height of quarantine in our area (March to December 2020), and because of that, now that the area has lifted quarantines, it's pretty clear we're understaffed.

For context, if anyone's curious, AAA Northeast covers: Rhode Island; Massachusetts; everything west of East Hartford, Connecticut (don't ask why, I don't know); Salem, New Hampshire (because it's closer to our depots than AAA Northern New England's); Northern New Jersey; Southern New York. And by "Southern New York" I mean "everything south of Albany, including New York City and Long Island". To say we're understaffed is an understatement, because for context: AAA Texas (also known as 252), and only Texas. They have roughly three times the employees the division I work for, and they cover an area and population around HALF of what my division now covers.

I realize in this thread, so far all of you aren't Americans so let me explain it like this: The state of Texas is larger in landmass than the entire United Kingdom, and has a population of 29 million (per 2020 census) which is or almost half the UK's entire population. We cover an area of roughly the same size as Texas, but with more than it's population, because of the Southern NY and NJ areas, with nowhere near the number of people taking calls. 2021 has been a hell year for call volume and delays because of this.


-cough-

Sorry, rant over 😆
 
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This is the right place to rant @Gederas, and you are absolutely right!. I am probably one of those people who didn't even think about my vehicles sat not going anywhere in lockdown, and I ended up having to recharge my motorbike battery!

I am finding that the lockdown has had some pronounced unexpected impacts, for example when I'm out now it doesn't take long for my social "battery" to quickly empty and I want to scurry off home, much quicker than before lockdown. Even with motorcycling, which I love, I'm ok with a few hours instead of all day like before. I'm sure I'll get used to it again, but with how forward I was looking to the end of lockdown, I wasn't expecting to feel like this.
 
It's odd to think that everyone has radically different experiences over the last year+. For instance, I work with the public daily (retail) and the only change was having to wear a mask for a year. Otherwise I dealt with the same people in the same ways as before, selling the same products. I still did my errands. I couldn't get a haircut for like 3 months, and some jerks hoarded toilet paper, but otherwise same stuff different day. We didn't really have lockdowns here. There was like a month of businesses being closed other than retail and medical, but we were right back at it, just masked up.

As far as socially, I still met with the same crowd for board games once or twice a week. We just monitored ourselves and if someone felt under the weather then we would skip a week and try again. I have one friend who basically castled his home off from everything and everyone. I haven't seen him in over a year. We still chat online but I have no idea when we'll ever hang out again.

I did get Covid earlier this year which was really awkward timing. I had just gotten my first vaccine shot, and a few days later I caught it from a family friend (I had a mask on, we were outside, but he didnt so go figure) so I was out of work for 2 weeks and had to reschedule my 2nd shot. Yeah it sucked but for me, 29, ok-ish health, it was just like a really extended flu. Now my state is basically as it was precovid. I still have to wear a mask at the barbershop though.

tldr; Retail worker's life stayed mostly the same throughout covid
 
I think a shoutout is worthwhile to you guys who did keep on working and mixing the public, such as retail workers. We would have really struggled if you guys hadn't continued to do your job, so thank you very much.

Our household got Covid as well, and it just showed how differently the symptoms affect different people:
  • I've had worse colds, I wouldn't even have known if I hadn't had the test. Bit of a headache and tired
  • Missus got it worse, very achy, headache, like a bad flu. She also lost her sense of taste and smell that took about 3 months to come back! 😳 Even now 6 months on, there are certain smells which don't smell potent to her
  • One kid felt reasonably ok, bit of a headache and cough
  • One kid didn't have any symptoms at all!
 
My wife and I were in Florida when it hit, and we caught it right away. In the year since, and the move back to Utah, we successfully avoided it until we were able to get vaccinated. It almost feels post-Covid with most of the restrictions lifted, but hundreds of people are still being hospitalized because of the people who refuse to get vaccinated. Hopefully we can get through this before a nastier strain develops.
 

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