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Which Tomb Kings units would have served Nagash?

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Note: I didn’t know where to post this so this is going in this section because it can get some attention that way.

So what I am asking is which of the units listed in GWs Tomb Kings compendium would/would not have served Nagash, Arkhan, or any of their servants in the lore back in warhammer fantasy? (Specifically after Nagash was booted out of the throne) Would they be only loyal to Settra/Nehekara?, Would Nagash not have access to them?, etc.

I know he had access to some of the units but I am not quite as familiar with the Tomb Kings fluff. o_o

I am curious because my group (We are a casual bunch) wants to create a custom compendium for AoS that is a combination of Tomb kings and Vampire counts units called “The Disciples of Nagash” that takes benefits from both armies, mixes them, adds Nagash, Arkhan, and Neferata, but also takes some key benefits away from both factions. xD
 
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Well, Arkhan himself in 8th ed. was listed as a TK unit. He was, by rules, both a Liche Priest and a Tomb King, so you can fit in his TK army almost everything, with the exceptions of other named characters that actually fight Nagash
 

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Units in the AoS compendium? And during Nagash's exile period? Any other than Settra and Khalida, although old Arkhan on a chariot explicitly uses Settra's rules in AoS, and Settra and Khalida were both subsewuently made generic characters implying thvat even if those two wouldn't have served Nagash, others with their ability sets might have.

During this period, Arkhan continued to serve Nagash, but did so out of his personal domain within Nehekhara, leading effectively a Tomb Kings army, and courting favor with any other kings and priests that he could tempt to his side. Which wasnt all that many, and those that did support him needed to do so in secret to avoid Settra's wrath - Settra waged many decades long if seiges against Arkhan, which were mostly fruitless thanks to the lich's lands and tower being rather uniquely defended from Settra's chariot hosts, but other kings found to be working with the lich were swiftly crushed. But still, while he couldn't call on anything like the hosts that Settra had access to, the forces he did command included pretty much anything the tomb kings could field apart from the other special characters.

That said, while he could field anything, some things he had more of or made more common use of, including personal arcane acolytes (lich priests, lich high priests, caskets of souls), hordes of skeleton infantry, elite wight infantry (tomb guard), sepulchral stalkers, tomb scorpions, carrion birds (generally ridden/controlled by small, wraith-like spirits), and necrosphynxes.

Necropolis knights & ushabti, while not entirely absent, would have been less common, and while he used some chariots, iirc he commanded nothing like the vast chariot legions that Settra and some of the other more warlike tomb kings employed.

And, of course, any resources Arkhan had access to were available for Nagash to employ during his increasingly infrewuent periods of activity.


Of course, during the end times, things cganged considerably. Upon Nagash's victory at Khemri, Khalida bent her knee to the archlich. The other TK special characters were killed or scattered, and the entire remainder of the tomb kings forces were brought under Nagash's control, at which point he had near endless access to any Tomb Kings unit you might like, at least for the scant handful of years between the opening acts of the End Times and their conclusion.

In modern AoS land? To the extent that the TK can be said to exist in AoS at all, which mostly is in the form of sketchy and vague allusions, they all serve Nagash, same as all the other proper undead.
 
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Units in the AoS compendium? And during Nagash's exile period? Any other than Settra and Khalida, although old Arkhan on a chariot explicitly uses Settra's rules in AoS, and Settra and Khalida were both subsewuently made generic characters implying thvat even if those two wouldn't have served Nagash, others with their ability sets might have.

During this period, Arkhan continued to serve Nagash, but did so out of his personal domain within Nehekhara, leading effectively a Tomb Kings army, and courting favor with any other kings and priests that he could tempt to his side. Which wasnt all that many, and those that did support him needed to do so in secret to avoid Settra's wrath - Settra waged many decades long if seiges against Arkhan, which were mostly fruitless thanks to the lich's lands and tower being rather uniquely defended from Settra's chariot hosts, but other kings found to be working with the lich were swiftly crushed. But still, while he couldn't call on anything like the hosts that Settra had access to, the forces he did command included pretty much anything the tomb kings could field apart from the other special characters.

That said, while he could field anything, some things he had more of or made more common use of, including personal arcane acolytes (lich priests, lich high priests, caskets of souls), hordes of skeleton infantry, elite wight infantry (tomb guard), sepulchral stalkers, tomb scorpions, carrion birds (generally ridden/controlled by small, wraith-like spirits), and necrosphynxes.

Necropolis knights & ushabti, while not entirely absent, would have been less common, and while he used some chariots, iirc he commanded nothing like the vast chariot legions that Settra and some of the other more warlike tomb kings employed.

And, of course, any resources Arkhan had access to were available for Nagash to employ during his increasingly infrewuent periods of activity.


Of course, during the end times, things cganged considerably. Upon Nagash's victory at Khemri, Khalida bent her knee to the archlich. The other TK special characters were killed or scattered, and the entire remainder of the tomb kings forces were brought under Nagash's control, at which point he had near endless access to any Tomb Kings unit you might like, at least for the scant handful of years between the opening acts of the End Times and their conclusion.

In modern AoS land? To the extent that the TK can be said to exist in AoS at all, which mostly is in the form of sketchy and vague allusions, they all serve Nagash, same as all the other proper undead.
Did Arkhan/Nagash employ Necrotects as task managers? or did they not care to use them as they were rather confident in their own abilities to command the army?

P.S. Thx for the advice I will remember it
 

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I recall neither specific mention of nectrotects being employed by Arlhan nor mention of their absence from his forces. He did use some constructs (again, stalkers in particular are called out), some catapults, and some infantry legions, so in the absence of lore to the contrary (at least that I'm aware of) it's reasonable to assume he would have employed at least a few necrotects.
 
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