2250 first fast list

[nazg]

Here's a list I've been thinking about doing. It's pretty fast due to ghoulkin. C&c welcome before I purchase more (Only have the spearhead + 30ish zombie for summon)

Vampire Lord
Lv3
Spectral Form
Dark Acolyte
Avatar of Death (GW)
(Goes with the wraith unit)

Vampire
Supernatural Horror
Walking Death
Armour of the Night
Talisman Lynci
Sword of Battle
(Fast Cav/warmachine hunter hunter)

Vampire
Dread Knight
Ghoulkin
Hand of Dust
(Goes with unit of ghouls)

Wight King
Barded Steed
Rod Flaming Death

3 X 15 Ghouls
1 X 14 Ghouls

2 X 5 Dire Wolf

2 X 4 Fell Bat

7 Black Knight , Barding Full cmd

6 Black Knight, Barding Full cmd Banner of dead legion
(Wight King here)

6 Wraiths

1 Varghulf

 

[Truly Dead 349]

you dont have enough core

looks decent enough to me.. tho i havent played any games with new rules yet

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

you dont have enough core

looks decent enough to me.. tho i havent played any games with new rules yet

He does:

3 x 15 ghouls
1 x 14 ghouls

S thats four core altogether.

Hey that Lord looks familiar!! Thats the one posted in my army list :grin:

Good to see someone else likes the idea of an etheral Lord.

One thing I would say is that whilst you are pretty high in magic attack with your bound items your a bit short on the defense, once your opponent realises your Lords ethereal and in with the wraiths they're going to go all out at blasting[/b] it apart and it only takes a couple of high powered spells to demolish that unit.

I would seriously recommend some Dispel Scrolls and maybe a CC with Balefire (you can put it in one of your ghoul units so it can still move at the start with Ghoulkin)

I would also suggest squeezing the points somewhere for Banner of Hellish Vigour for one of the Black Knight Units to keep them marching away from any vamps

 

[Truly Dead 349]

He does:

3 x 15 ghouls
1 x 14 ghouls

oh right >_> reasons i shouldnt post hungover and jsut woken up =\

 

[illusionarypresence]

you cant expand on your ghoul units. you need to purchase the upgrade so you can balloon your units. 15s are no where near big enough

 

[nazg]

@ Disciple of Nagash: Yeah great Ethereal lord, I really like it.

I've reworked the list a bit so here it is:

Vampire Lord
Lv3
Spectral form
Dark Acolyte
Avatar of Death

Vampire
Ghoulkin
Walking Death
Talisman Lynci
Armour of night
Sword of Might

Vampire
Dead Knight
Summon Ghouls
2X Dispel Scroll
(First Change here, summon ghouls needs 4+ to be cast and he will likely use the 2 dice from the common pool as well)

Wight king
Barded Steed
Rod of flaming death

3 X 18 Ghouls
(1 Unit less but each one a bit bigger)

2 X 5 Dire Wolf

7 Black Knight Barding, Full Cmd, Banner of dead Legion

6 black Knight Barding, Full Cmd, BAnner of Hellish Vigour

2 X 4 Fell Bats

6 Wraiths

1 Varghulf

I like the idea of a corpse Cart but do I need a Necromancer in it to be able to join a unit?

I could trade the wight king and 1 dispel scroll for a Necromancer with either Van Hel or IoN on a corpse cart with Balefire

Does it look better this way?

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I've been trying to work my own 2250 list out, like you I really want my spectral Lord but i'm also worried about his survivabilty, if his unit comes across say a pumped up chaos Lord with magic items his lack of armour / ward means his going to get obliterated.

I would say go for the necro on cart as Balefire is more supportive of your Lord with all enemy spells in 24" at a -1 to cast ( I'm trying to work in two as the effect is cumulative), drop two ghouls form one of the units to 16 and then put the CC in there, as it fills out ranks you the effectively have 4 ranks (I think).

I think I'm going to have a fresh look at mine as its too static at the mo, not enough fast response, I'l post it up & you can have a go at giving me ideas

Glad that you've taken the Banner of Hellish vigour with the Knights, funny to see wood elves hiding in the woods only for your ethereal steeds to carry on marching towards them :grin:

 

[illusionarypresence]

your wight king adds little at present. he doesnt even have a lance....

i think if anything is to go, then its him, and what you swap him for is up to you. another wizard never hurts, and if its points you want then a necro is obviously the cheapest.

thing is, i think your still a little vulnerable with only one vamp able to raise ghouls. you could swap your wight with a vamp with dread knight and summon ghouls again. and summon ghouls is cast on a 3+ with the power.