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No theyre not irrelevant Blutsauger. your way of looking at it is just wrong. But i give up on explaining any further

?? I really dont get what you say. - 2 units come into contact in charge/movement - magicphase sees VM removing ASL from zombies and replaces it by ASF, now zombies have ASF. - shootingphase - closecombat, Phoenix gives ASL to b2b, so ASF-zombies get ASL from Phoenix, this cancels out...

Looks promising and very Sylvania/Vlad von Carstein like. :D Vlad Tepes, the true knight of the Order of the Dragon, impaling Ottomans to scare them.... couldnt be more awesome. I can definately imagine Vlad turning into a massive group of bats and smashing 200 puny Empire footsoldiers at once.

hahaha, noted and i can appreciate that. Yet you still remain with the fact that ASL is removed during magic. Then gets given back from another source in a later phase during the turn. Effectively cancelling out ASF given by Vigour Mortis. And i disagree on the extrapowerful ASF. Vigour Mortis...

I dont think so Blutsauger. From a purely technical PoV; natural zombie-ASL is removed during the magic phase by vigour mortis. So during the magicphase Zombies gain ASF. But it isnt until closecombat that they get debuffed by ASL from a source that is in basecontact. This source of ASL is not...

I live in THE most densely populated country in the world in terms of people/km2, yet prices are not lower :D

playing more than 6 turns shouldnt happen, especially if you have deathstar-horney players.... 40 witchelves with a cauldron and a bsb are almost impossible to defeat unless you want to spend alot of turns walking and flying around him and screaming it down. Which is just straight boring. Id...

I think the zombies are quite an exception idd. I will try to explain step by step how this process works. - Zombies have Initiative 1 and they have ASL; this is to make sure that zombies pretty much always hit last which represents their incredibly slow behaviour. This is to make sure that...

Thats the same as saying: im playing 8th edition vanilla. so no AB's that came out afterwards..... and no faq.... Problem is that the game is not streamlined if its 'optional' resulting in a scenario where some1 brings an UL and gets turned down by some1 who refuses EndTimes rules. Even though...

Yes well, theres always a choice, you can play 6th ed. as well. If u wana play 8th nowadays that means end times as well.

so... youre saying no one crumbles anymore from the death of a general? not even VC amd TK.... Tbh i dont think those armies really exist anymore. i mean, theyre available for playing but fluffwise and even gamewise, it wouldnt make alot of sense to have separate vc and tk while theres an army...

I still have a hard time coping with the idea of Undeads raised by a bretonnian priestess being invulnerable to slain general, only because it comes out of UL list.... this insinuates that Nagash protects undead that are in service of the enemy..... which makes 0 sense

Its a perfectly viable option to take RF, AoDM, FL and equip your VL with sword of swiftstrike. now you have an ASF blenderlord that can get +1s +1t or +3s +3a. its not a waste at all. at least not in my opinion.

As should be. our general dying shouldnt be impacting as it did until now. all nice and fluffy but retarded gamingwise

Slain general does apply. it only doesnt apply to an UL army. All the others (regular VC, regular TK, summon undead by other armies than UL) still suffer from slain general

And @najo i dont know what u mean... Are you saying nightgobbo shamans cannot summon from LoU? imo they can and are even allowed to eat their mushroom on it and get the benefit... or the OD...

That slain general rule still applies to regular VC and TK. the rising of Nagash did nothing for those undeads. Why would undead summoned by orcs be immune to slain general?

Mm i worded that wrong. Does slain general affect those units since theyre not part of the real UL do they have diminished unstable? like Nagash's presence diminishes the crumble in his own Legion. Theyre Undeads, from UL but theyve been summoned by opposing forces. My guess is that slain...

What im more wondering about is the descriptions in each spell, they always state that the summoning happens from the UL. this means that any other race in warhammer can go summon undead units from the UL? Are those summoned undeads also not suffering from the unstable rule? what is the thing...

Im confused.... any wizard from any army can take the lore.... but they cant summon? that makes no sense