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True, but that's why you back up if someone pushes too hard at you. They're a delay/denial unit, as compared to an actual combat unit. Their purpose is to slow things down that are trying to envelop you.

I agree with @Mad'at : TG scream is an attack. It causes automatic wounds. Armour of Morkhar says you must always roll 3+ to wound. Ergo you must roll an additional 3+ to wound the Everchosen with any wounds caused by the terrorgheist. All you need to trigger the Armour is an "attack" that...

It's a shame chariots are minimum unit size 3, though. If I could fill my entire core with solo skeleton chariots I would be all over that.

Yeah, they're just really expensive and against a lot of matchups I find that all they really do is give a nice big squishy target to get a few hundred points out of. That's why I prefer the chariots. They're more mobile, their threat range is a whack bigger, and they can still put out just...

Yeah...definitely tricky to give a sort of "grade" to various units when their performance is so attuned to what else is in the build. Having a long list of "if X is in the army, then this unit would be Y" would get really unwieldy. My suggestion would be to just assume a base level of synergy...

Because they want to get the full 20 points.

Quote: Quote Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post I've no idea, I just know that some armies (existing under 8th) have models that have not yet been released, likewise CAD stuff/concepts for some, whether these will get released is unknown to me. An example would be the Dwarf Juggernaught...

They're stone throwers, so yeah...indirect fire.

I like it. You may find yourself wanting to play around with smaller units of archers, depending on your playstyle with them. Otherwise the list looks quite solid, depending on what you can use it to raise up. ...assuming that you're not playing ETC, where they've basically just said "don't use...

This is true, but the tbat can actually take a significant amount of abuse from warmachines before going down...especially after a few magic phases. If you think about how much damage those hellcannons could do elsewhere it's less concerning having him shooting at a tbat all game.

Lot's of good stuff in there, you guys did a good job! The TK book is just full of a lot of trap choices, which were most of what I was pointing out. It takes many games with the TK before you start to notice how certain items and units just plain don't pull their weight. The biggest trick with...

I use the chariots similarly to how I use the vargheists in my vanilla vamps list when there aren't warmachines for them to hunt. They kind of hang back from the bus and threaten any lighter units like fast cav or other chariots that try to get in their way. The 6 bow shots are good at killing...

1) Disagree that TK skeletons are inferior to VC ones. 5+ armour is of negligible utility, and the 20% reduction in cost is a huge boon. Magic banners are only helpful if you're using the unit as a bunker for characters, really. 2) You missed the most important part of skeleton chariots...

Boo 2,400! Probably just drop the terrorgheist for a second casket. Was squeezing the core pretty tight to get down to 625, so I'd drop a unit of skeletons for 2 units of horse archers then add a muso to the chariots. Gives some more chaff too, which I like. Or you could bump the chariots up to...

Cool. Well let us know how it goes!

Vampire Lord QB, RF, Fear Incarnate Ha, Shield, barded nightmare OB, OTS, ToP Level 4 (Vampires) Liche High Priest Level 4 (Undeath), skeletal steed Golden Deathmask of Kharnut, Dispel Scroll, Sword of Striking Wight King GW, barded steed Nightshroud, luckstone 3 skeleton chariots, flaming...

I've been toying around with a list for a Swedish tourney that has the VL and two wights in a BK bus, instead of the double blender. Put Banner of the Barrows on the unit to help them hit harder. First one is NS+DBG+Ironcurse+GW, other is Sword of Antiheroes + potion of toughness. I recently...

The thing I'll caution with double blenders is that they only preserve their points well if they can mulch whatever they're touching before it hits back. For the 1200+ points their unit costs, your opponent can throw a whole heck of a lot of hurt into them and they're only 3 T5 wounds a piece...

I'm having a super productive day at work, if y'all can't tell :P

Just make sure you don't drop that egg-filled basket of yours :P Honestly, I think double blender is a bit much in that list with the mask. You kind of leave yourself with nothing else in the list. I'd just do VL+two wights (one with NS)+LHP with deathmask and dispel scroll. Maybe give one of...