1000 points vs ogres

[Theerteen]

Hi, I just played my first match (and yeah, it was also my first match in the 8th edition) against ogre kingdoms (1000 p), and it was humilating. My Hexwraiths were burnt down by a total power spell in the first round, and I don't had any good chances in the melee fights..Does somebody have a good idea / existing list against these fatsos? I think my army didn't have a chance from the beginning, so I would love to get some advices from veterans to get my revenge!

 

[Narenzade]

Konrad. He will single handedly win you every game against Ogres. Konrad & Ghouls or Skellies.

 

[Theerteen]

Ah k, sounds good. But if I use Konrad, there is no more room for more than one necromancer, is it possible to stand against them without a magic basement? (I don't have any experiences with the new spells..)

 

[Xander]

Don't rely on Konrad, imo. A lot of players and tournaments ban special characters, which is why I'd never suggest special characters as a way to beat anything. Banshee screams are nice against ogres, or even a terrorgheist if you can protect it against their cannon. In 1000 points it's rather difficult to beat the ogres (they have a huge advantage in low point games) not to mention vampire counts aren't great in low point games because you can't take advantage of the most powerful characteristic in the entire army. A tooled up vampire. But yeah... my best advice is screaming them to death. Leadership 7 across the board is pretty nice to exploit, or perhaps use the fear bomb (if you can afford it in 1000 points).

 

[Theerteen]

I won't play in tournaments, it's just a small circle of friends, so there is no restriction of any models. When it's in the book or the errata, you can use it. Would you give me a hint what the fear bomb is?
I wanted to use the Banshee, but it's the same with Konrad, there is no more room for a second Necro when I use it as hero. And using it as a cairn wraith champion, it'll be smashed as soon as it loses a melee fight..so far my fears. I soon realized that ogres are a hard enemy in low point battles, but I swore revenge! Thanks for your help!

 

[Velmates]

Fear bomb is a tactic that combines Aura of Dark Majesty (-1 LD to enemy units within 6 in), Fear Incarnate (enemy rerolls successful fear tests) and the Screaming Banner (take fear tests on 3D6 and discard the lowest result). Do you see where this is going? For the most time it is used with a unit of skeletons (only core unit that can take a magical banner) and a vampire... But since many important elite units are ITP or can be turned into ITP (or cause fear for themselves) you have to be aware that this tactic is not very reliable...

It has worked for me in a few cases (and when it does it can be really good) but I wouldn't recommend it since it costs a lot of points spent better elsewhere.

Against ogres you need a terror causing unit to use this tactic since they are causing fear themselves. As you've said in 1000 points there is mostly not enough room for such a character.

 

[Theerteen]

Yeah I think it's nice for "normal" enemys that don't cause fear, will try it soon
But back to my question, would you use the Banshee as champion or hero? My first idea is the good old giant skelli / zombie core unit with a banshee in it, and a terror causing vampire (mounted? unmounted?) in a block of 2h grave guards / black knights when mounted. Another question, how should I equip a vampire general in this match? Full equip and no other heros, or a Necro with magic level 2 as magic base? (please forgive me if my english causes headache or bleeding eyes to you )

 

[Theerteen]

Haha! Got this fatties with the good old black knights (after he burnt my hex wraiths again in the first round with total power fireball :swear:. They reached his general unit and my vampire slayed his general (don't know the right word in english, one of the fat fire mages). After he lost this fight, his second big unit wasted their panic test and fled. A well tasting evening! :konrad:

 

[Theerteen]

Is it interesting for someone to see the army list? Or is there a section in the forum where existing lists again different enemys are posted?

 

[Seneschal]

Legions of the Damned is where we post army lists. Legacies of Blood is for battle reports. Both of these forums can be found in the To War! section.

 

[Theerteen]

Legions of the Damned is where we post army lists. Legacies of Blood is for battle reports. Both of these forums can be found in the To War! section.

Thanks!