1500 . a beginners list

[Akhara'Keth]

Hi there!

After listening to some great advice in my "Hello" post in Fresh Blood, I've decided i'd throw together a 1500 point army list. I really like the idea of an infantry based grind it out type of list , which is quite opposite from my MSU mobile 40k army Im used to. That also being said this is my first Fantasy army list so I think I got some of the point spending rules wrong so please correct me if so!

Thanks in advance!

Vampire Lord
Heavy Armor, Shield, Ogre Blade, ToP, Quickblood, Red Fury, Beguile

Necromancer
Book of Arkhan

40 Skeletons with Full Command
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
20 Zombies

8 Crypt Ghouls
3 Vargheists

Mortis Engine

 

[Draykorinee]

I didn;t see an erata on the lords,ignore me.

I love your list, but I don't like putting all my eggs in one basket at that point range, a near 500pt model in a 1500 pts list makes me very scared, but then I face dwarf cannons all the time.

What level are your wizards?

Your list comes a bit over 1500 on my battlescribe, you sure you got your figures right?

 

[Akhara'Keth]

I love your list, but I don't like putting all my eggs in one basket at that point range, a near 500pt model in a 1500 pts list makes me very scared, but then I face dwarf cannons all the time.

To be honest I am not really sure what to do with the characters when building a list at this points level (i know its kind of low for Fantasy). I just figured i'd go with a standard Vampire Lord and a Necromancer and start from there. I focused more on the infantry and other units in the army making sure there is some balance and synergy between the units.

What level are your wizards?

lvl 1

Your list comes a bit over 1500 on my battlescribe, you sure you got your figures right?

I'm aiming for around 1500 first then doing some trimming later. I added it up again, maybe im missing something but its coming to 1,501?

 

[Draykorinee]

As a quick tip, if you're giving him a shield, the enchanted shield is 5pt instead of 3 for the normal one! -2 instead of -1!

 

[Atrophus]

Looks a solid list, it's all the basics that are in my 2500 point list

If you like this style of play, when you up your points, you want some target saturation and double up on your mortis engine and vargheists.

The only thing I'll add is it might be better to drop 2 crypt horrors, then up the wizard level of either the vamp or necro to 2 and take the blasphemous tome on your mortis. Will help getting those vital invocations through, that youl be relying on to grind opponents out.

 

[Seneschal]

Drop the engine and get your VL to level 4. Enemies will easily dispel anything from a level 1 or 2 and you need to dispel their stuff as well so I strongly suggest upgrading.
Use the rest of the points on vargheists.

 

[Draykorinee]

If you take the blasphemous tome then you wont need a level 4 wizard, however having level one wizards restricts your spell pool, so definitely take level 2s otherwise you'll be able to cast well but only 2 spells, and its kind of a waste, also if he adds level 4 to that VL he'll cost a whopping 514 pts.
1500 pts is a hard range for me, I never take a VL at 1500 pts myself I always take a master necro with black periapt and bunker it behind my main force in a small zombie unit. Then take a souped up Vampire and a white King to accept challenges, it normally comes in at around 550-600 pts which is about the same as a super tooled up VL and a lvl 2 necro. Bear in mind I play a friend who always has a gun line, always keeps his troops stationary until the last minute so I know what tactics i need to employ, do you know what lists you're facing? because that can change a list a lot.

 

[Akhara'Keth]

I'm not sure what armies i'll be facing more of. I'm looking to just start with something well balanced yet effective. I'm wondering if I switch down from a Vampire Lord i'll lose some damage output? How should I kit him out with gear and what-not? Also would I need a Wight King if I place the Vampire in the Skeleton unit with its Full Command and just use the champion to accept challenges?

 

[Draykorinee]

I'm not sure what armies i'll be facing more of. I'm looking to just start with something well balanced yet effective. I'm wondering if I switch down from a Vampire Lord i'll lose some damage output? How should I kit him out with gear and what-not? Also would I need a Wight King if I place the Vampire in the Skeleton unit with its Full Command and just use the champion to accept challenges?

You'll lose damage output from one source but increase your damage output from magic. The problem with relying on 1 skeleton champion for me is that my friend ALWAYS dispels IoN, which is great in someways because I can get off a tastier spell but it also means I can't rely on it. My vampire normally goes with Red fury/ogre blade or great weapon quickblood/book of arkhan, depending on what I'm facing, the vampire only takes hits from snipe/cannon so I rarely if ever give it any meaningful defense. Dont forget that you will lose damage output, but at 1500 pts your vampire should be chewing through rank and file while your wight king can stand up to his characters/champion (often kills the oposition champion) wight kings are no slouches in battle.

Ps, I am a novice, I only do what I do because I know what I face and I have lost a VL to a cannon on turn one and at 1500pts the game was effectivly over.

 

[Akhara'Keth]

Thank you all for your help!

Ive done some restructuring and lowered my initial points limit for a build to 1000. At my local store there are beginner games under 1000 points where I can learn the mechanics of playing warhammer fantasy. I still have the same goal for more of a footslogging type list but i've opted for a Terrorgheist here. Honestly im just hoping any list I build will do enough damage. Being used to my Dark Eldar where every unit i bring will unload large amounts of firepower, building a VC list where their core has little offensive output im finding a bit.. well, challenging. Every list I think up of im always unsure if it can dish out enough hurt.


Vampire lvl 2, Red Fury, Heavy Armor, Charmed Shield, Sword of Swift Slaying
Necromancer lvl 1 Book of Arkhan
20 Zombies
40 Skeletons (Full Command)
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
Terrorgheist

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