1500 points, with some to spare

[Tall]

So I'm moving up to 1500 points and for some reason I'm finding it hard to do it. I've expanded my 500 point force but for the life of me I can't find anything to take up the last 200 points. I don't know if it's because there's so much to choose from, or because I'm still unsure how most of this army plays (I'm still getting used to fragile units, after playing WoC for 10 years it's taking some getting used to!)
So I ask your help once more, what can you do with this little lot?

Heroes,

Vampire, Dark Acolyte, Lord of the Dead, Flayed Hauberk - 170

Wight King, BSB, Steed, Banner of the Dead Legion - 95

Necromancer, Extra Spell, Corpse Cart (Balefire), Black Periapt - 189

Core,

15 Skeletons, FC - 140

15 Skeletons, FC - 140

20 Crypt Ghouls, Crypt Ghast - 168

Special,

12 Grave Guard, FC - 174

3 Fell Bats - 60

5 Black Knights, FC - 160

Total - 1296

 

[Abbysal]

Hi Tall, you could add another vampire and give them both summon ghouls, and split the ghoul unit into 2 units of ten you could end up with 2 units of 20 by the end of your 2nd magic phase.

Alternatively you can give your White king the Drakenhoff banner bumping you up straight away and by attaching him to your Grave guard they will have regeneration too.

Or you could add a unit of 2 Cairn wraiths with a banshee and just give another banner to one of you skellie units.

If you like your list as it is then just add some more banners and magic items: skellie banners,another 30pts on your vamp (maybe something like sceptre de noirot D6 + 9 Zombies with raise dead), the better banner for your White king the Banner of the Barrows for your Grave Guard split the Ghouls into 2 units and add another Ghast and 6 Black Knights will be much better than 5.

In my humble opinion I would opt for another Vampire beefed up for magic.

Hope I helped

 

[Tall]

So after a little think I've changed a few things, what do you think now?

Heroes,

Vampire, Nightmare, Dark Acolyte, Lord of the Dead, Walach's Bloody Hauberk - 198

Wight King, BSB, Steed, Sword of Kings - 140

Vampire, Dark Acolyte, Flayed Hauberk - 155

Core,

14 Skeletons, FC - 132

15 Skeletons, FC - 140

20 Crypt Ghouls, Crypt Ghast - 168

5 Dire Wolves - 40

Special,

15 Grave Guard, FC, Banner of the Barrows - 255

5 Fell Bats - 100

6 Black Knights, FC, Hellish Vigour, - 201

Total - 1521

 

[TMS]

There seem to be some kind of error made in your calculation of points - your Wight King ought to cost more than that, which will push you above 1500 by a fair margin. By doing these changes,

-swap Flayed Hauberk for Avatar of Death + Enchanted Shield on your second hero Vampire.
-drop Walach's Hauberk and Nightmare in favour of the now available Flayed Hauberk on your general.
-drop 3 Ghouls

you should be able to fit in the Wight King in your list while still keeping the same style and essence to it.

 

[Tall]

I've changed the points, it should be ok now, I'd blame the programmer of my list maker but seeing as I did it, it was a hardware malfunction!!

 

[TMS]

Your Wight King should cost even more than that, actually. If the steed has also got Barding it'll come to a total of 145 points - without it, only 5 points less.

 

[Tall]

Your right, I'd messed up the program for adding the BSB add on, my bad.

Ok, so I've adjusted it now, third time lucky it'll be right! But now I've 21 points that need shaving off.
Does anyone have any ideas?

 

[TMS]

I'll make the same suggestion as last time, give your general the Flayed Hauberk and take away his Nightmare while handing your second hero Vampire the Enchanted Shield and Avatar of Death. This will save you 18 points all-in-all, while still giving your Vampires good saves in close combat. You could then simply drop a Skeleton/Ghoul and be within the points limit.

Edit: If there's a modelling issue when it comes to dropping your general's Nightmare, you could easily remedy this by swapping powers/items with the other Vampire. Avatar of Death and the Enchanted Shield on an unbarded steed will grant him a 2+ armour save all the same.

 

[Tall]

Well 3rd times the charm (hopefully)

Heroes,

Vampire, Nightmare, Dark Acolyte, Lord of the Dead, Flayed Hauberk, Biting Blade - 175

Wight King, BSB, Steed, Sword of Kings - 140

Vampire, Dark Acolyte, Avatar of Death, Enchanted shield - 155

Core,

14 Skeletons, FC - 132

14 Skeletons, FC - 132

20 Crypt Ghouls, Crypt Ghast - 168

5 Dire Wolves - 40

Special,

15 Grave Guard, FC, Banner of the Barrows - 255

5 Fell Bats - 100

6 Black Knights, FC, Hellish Vigour, - 201

Total - 1500

Finger crossed it all tot's up correctly, I apologise for my frankly terrible maths skills.
Thanks for your help.

 

[TMS]

According to my calculator you're actually at 1493 points. :tongue:

Either way, I think the list is looking good. There are points for adding a Biting Blade to your general - you never know when an additional -1 modifier on the enemy's armour save can give you the day.

 

[Tall]

Oh don't say that!! It means I've got to go through and check everything in the formula's!!!! :'(

But cheers for all your help.

 

[Mikael.K]

I´d try giving the second vampire the lord of the dead power aswell. If you want a really nasty list, just drop the grave guard for a unit of 5 wraiths :mrgreen:.