2400 Vampire Counts Tournament List - No End Times.

[TheArtfulDodger]

Hey guys this is first Draft.

Lords and Heroes: 708

-Vampire Lord - LVL 3 - Lore of Vampires *General*
Heavy Armour, Shield, Barded Nightmare, Red Fury, Quickblood, Ogre Blade, Talisman of Preservation, The Other Trickster's Shard

-Necromancer - LVL 1- Lore of Vampires
Dispell Scroll

-Wight King
Ironcurse Icon, Battle Standard Bearer

Core: 648

-50 Skeleton Warriors
Champion, Musician, Standard

-30 Cryot Ghouls

-21 Zombies
Standard

Special: 819

-30 Grave Guard
Champion, Musician, Standard, Great Weapons

-9 Black Knights
Champion, Musician, Standard, Barding, Lances, Banner of Swiftness

-5 Hex Wraiths

Rare: 225

-Terrorgheist

Total Points: 2400

Now I tried to run a similar list the other night, but rather than having the 30 Grave Guard I used 5 blood knights. They just didn't do well at all.

My tactics for this kind of list would be to use the hex Wraiths to tie up an unit that doesn't have a combat resolution bonus and non magical attacks. The Grave Guard will be there to punch out the big blocks. I'll run them 10x3 with back up from the Crypt Ghouls running 6x5 for the rank bonus. The Vampire lord will be in with the knights to provide either a center line charge or a wider flank. the Zombies are purely there to keep the necromancer alive while he try's to keep the Grave Guard and Crypt ghouls alive with invocation. The Skeletons are just a 10x5 road block to cover the flank.

Any advice would be great.

 

[Asmodeus]

Draft.

ETC?

Hmm, i think that you dont have points to have both GG and BK in single tournament list. IMO you should decide to either ride in bus with that WK and VL or to go on foot in that GG. Then, you can have spare points for some more support. More support= more versatility.

Too much points in core. 48pts above neccesary minimum is not needed here. 4lev on your caster is definitely usefull in tournaments. Skip some core models, add 4 lev and it will be better.

Terrorgheist is situational, but on new ETC maps definitely flyable. You should not have troubles in hiding it behind LOS blocking terrain.

Magic weapon is better on supporting character, not the main blender. Give him GW (and nightshroud) and stick with rerolls from magic. If you get HE with BoTWD, you will crash against this broken thing. ETC comps ethereals, so it should not be problem if you face mirror.

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

Not ETC, No Comp, No End Times.

I could do a 15 strong Knight Bus and then drop some spirit hosts into the mix?

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

Lords and Heroes:
-Vampire Lord - LVL 3 - Lore of Vampires *General*
Heavy Armour, Shield, Barded Nightmare, Red Fury, Quickblood, Ogre Blade, Talisman of Preservation, The Other Trickster's Shard

-Necromancer - LVL 1- Lore of Vampires
Dispell Scroll

-Wight King
Ironcurse Icon, Battle Standard Bearer

Core:
-40 Skeleton Warriors
Champion, Musician, Standard

-30 Crypt Ghouls

-21 Zombies
Standard

Special:
-30 Grave Guard
Champion, Musician, Standard, Great Weapons

-9 Black Knights
Champion, Musician, Standard, Barding, Lances, Banner of Swiftness

-5 Hex Wraiths

-Spirit Host

Rare:
-Terrorgheist

Total Points: 2400

Ok dropped 10 Skeleton warriors and added a spirit host for an added Ethereal to help tie up.

 

[Seneschal]

I would never field GG and black knights in the same list. Dump one of them.

If you keep the knights;
-mount the BSB, give him nightshroud and put him next to the general.
-Dump the ghouls for 5 model wolf units. You want fast redirectors.
-with the points from the GG, grab 3 more knights and some more hexies/vargheists.

If you keep the GG;
-Get their numbers to 40. toss banner of the barrows on them
-unmount the VL, give the WK nightshroud and place them next to each other. VL in the corner of the unit to minimize attacks coming his way.
-If you have them, get another skellie unit after dumping the ghouls. 30 is too few for them.