2500 list for a new player with Coven Throne

[Charisma]

Hi!

I'm new to Vampire Counts and have made an army list. Currently I have not bought anything yet. But the two things I really want in the army is the vampire lord and the vampire on the coven throne, anything else I can change

I will mostly play against Lizardmen, Empire and High Elves.

The list:

Lords

Vampire Lord
Level 1 (Lore of Vampires)
Red Fury
Quickblood
The Other Trickster's Shard
Ogre Blade
Talisman of Preservation
Shield
Heavy Armor
Total

Master Necromancer
Level 4 (Lore of Vampires)
Total

Heroes

Vampire
Lvl 2 (heavens)
Coven Throne
Battle Standard Bearer
Aura of Dark Majesty
Forbidden Lore
Talisman of Endurance
Charmed shield
Heavy Armor
Total

Cairn Wraith

Core Units

26 Zombies
Musician
Standard
Total

27 Zombies
Musician
Standard
Total

29 Crypt Ghouls
Ghast
Total

5 Dire Wolves

5 Dire Wolves

10 Skeleton Warriors
Champion
Total

Special Units

3 Crypt Horrors

3 Vargheists

Rare Units

Terrorgheist

5 Blood Knights

Grand Total 2499

Any help would be most appreciated
Thanks in advance!

 

[Erik]

Hi man!
I would reconsider core units, maybe make zombie's units 20 strong, drop skelly and add more wolfs.
In a 2500 game, only 3 horrors die very quickly! If you can double them at least, it would be better. Finally BloodK are very very very fragile and die soooo fast with a huge points gain for your oppo (i understand you, i simply love them and i field a unit of 4 knights in every game.... but 7/10 they disappear from table on the first, max second turn).

Wich lore on the thronevampire?

 

[Erik]

Aaah i missed "heavens" i can't edit from phone ^^'

 

[Corien Sumatris]

Hey buddy!! Lets see what I can do to help!

1. Vamp lord looks good!
2. I like having a level 4 MN for casting so the lord doesn't miscast. So you're good there!
3. Coven thrones xan be very good even though they aren't seen as a competitive choice. I would personally drop bsb from it because a lucky cannon ball will cause that vamps points + 100 for a lack luster bonus.
4. A single cairn wraith can be helpful but can also just die and do nothing. If you have a thought with it then great but if it's just there then it'll probably mot do you to well.
5. The 2 units of zombies I would drop to 20 man and run 3 instead of the 10 man skellie unit. I would also bump those ghouls up to either 35 or 40.
6. I'm in agreement that 3 horrors won't do you any good. I would personally try to run 8.
7. I would add a champ to those vargs! Champs in that unit can really be money and can conga line for character hunting.
8. The TG can be amazing and with the throne in there I think you'll be good, but they just love to eat cannon balls, in fact, they love all shooting!! They just are too fond of being dead I guess lol.
9. I'm sort of in agreement here. I think the BKs can die for sure but I also think that you have other higher priorities so they will end up either being an expensive distraction or a super powerful shock troop. Either way is good for you!

Hope this helps ya out!!

 

[technocow]

I think I would drop the cairn wraith and forbidden lore on the vamp (and use either lore of shadow or vamps again) I'm guessing you want to use heavens for the signature spell for another -1 to ld for the battle of wills and TG scream and if your dead set on that I'd say drop the vamp to lvl 1, the extra lvl wont do too much good so I'd:

1. minus 1 wiz lvl of vamp
2. drop cairn wraith
3. ditch the musician on each zombie unit.
4. Add a lvl 1 necro with dispell scroll
5. add sword of might to vamp hero
6. add a standard, musician and gleaming pendant to the blood knights (if you get out of lord's bubble the reroll may come in very handy)
7. lose the bsb status of the vamp
8. add a varg champion.
9. cut the crypt horrors because sadly 3 doesnt look like it can anvil much.
10.add 2 spirit hosts
11. add a standard bearer to skeletons

If I did my maths right thats exactly 2500pts

I think this would give you more raising power with ION due to the lvl 1 necro (+ his dispell scroll) which would help get those zombies bulky enough to really tarpit, plus an extra channel for power/dispel dice.

Also this way if you do a "blood and glory" mission your fortitude would be 6 meaning because an extra banner is present you wont auto loose if your general dies.

And sorry for proposing some radical changes

 

[Charisma]

Thanks a lot for the help
I really appreciate it!

Where would you suggest I put the characters?

Thanks again!