Abyssal Terror

[Archamedius]

When would you actually use this monstrosity? It's 120 points, has toughness 5, 4 wounds and no save. How is this even remotely useable in a standard game? Maybe against elves that don't bring bolt throwers? Oh wait, executioners or white lions will murder it in one round, never mind.

What am I missing? Anyone have any creative uses for this mount?

 

[Patrunkenphat7]

You're not missing anything, it's awful.

 

[Adam_Barrow]

In a Necrarch themed army Abby is a must. To paraphrase, best to die cackling on the back of a stitched together monster.

 

[The Sun King]

It has flying and a small base. I would actually prefer it over the Zombie Dragon but both choices are sub-par if you powergame... but it's nice and fluffy.

 

[lord marcus]

honestly, with the new model which i am assuming represents it being made for manfred/neferata/arkhan, i think i would take one. However, i agree. it might be good for a low level character going warmachine hunting as it has flying.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Do we think then the new mount is a AT? Looking at it I think it is something else.

In regards to the AT itself, I have always gone for style of substance So for me, if I was doing a Necrarch army, yep I would have one. But as I love the Lahmian ladies more.....well they wouldn't be seen dead on such a mongrel

 

[lord marcus]

That is what the new mount has been theorized as on other forums like Dakka. Honestly I just call it a skull-filled horse.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Can't have too many skulls, I can just imagine Nagash and Khorne squabbling over them like old women at a carboot sale

 

[lord marcus]

Considering nagash is a functional god of necromancy, that would be quite awesome.

 

[Archamedius]

Considering nagash is a functional god of necromancy, that would be quite awesome.

Hilarity would most certainly ensue.

 

[lord marcus]

Hilarity would most certainly ensue.

Agreed, imagine Nagashizzar made of bone, in the warp..

 

[Pirate Robot Ninja of Death]

If the AT was a MC mount I'd be all over it. Especially if it was on a 40x40 base so that I could stuff him into a unit of skeletons or grave guard in a pinch. As it stands...yeah there's really no reason to take one.

 

[Skittelz1981]

Abyssal Terror? Is that in our book? Never heard of it!

 

[Archamedius]

If the AT was a MC mount I'd be all over it. Especially if it was on a 40x40 base so that I could stuff him into a unit of skeletons or grave guard in a pinch. As it stands...yeah there's really no reason to take one.

I actually think making it a Monstrous Creature would solve it's problems, however I also think it would then be the go to mount since it would make our Vampire lords immune to killing blow (something very important when seeing lots of dark elves and executioners on the field these days). I am not sure if that is good or not, since Killing Blow is a valid threat and balancing factor for vampire lords.

 

[Markond]

Do we think then the new mount is a AT? Looking at it I think it is something else.

The creature Neferata rides is refered to as a 'Nagadron the Dread Abyssal' and the one Mannfred rides is called a Nightgeist. I think the Dread Abyssal is champion grade Abyssal Terror, and a nightgeist is somewhat related to a terrorgheist or vargeist.

 

[Von Calyptra]

To paraphrase, best to die cackling on the back of a stitched together monster.

This is the best motto ever.

I periodically consider building one, because it would be awesome, but I can't figure out what to do with it (apart from dying cackling). It's certainly fluffy for Necrarchs, but I'm not sure you want your Necrarch riding around on something that wants to be in melee, because that would put your Necrarch in melee, which is where all the dying cackling happens.

 

[lord marcus]

This is the best motto ever.

I periodically consider building one, because it would be awesome, but I can't figure out what to do with it (apart from dying cackling). It's certainly fluffy for Necrarchs, but I'm not sure you want your Necrarch riding around on something that wants to be in melee, because that would put your Necrarch in melee, which is where all the dying cackling happens.

but, think of the glory, think of the wonder. plus, it's from the Abyyyyyssssssssss..... *dramatic pause* And it is Terrifying!!!!!

 

[Pirate Robot Ninja of Death]

I actually think making it a Monstrous Creature would solve it's problems, however I also think it would then be the go to mount since it would make our Vampire lords immune to killing blow (something very important when seeing lots of dark elves and executioners on the field these days). I am not sure if that is good or not, since Killing Blow is a valid threat and balancing factor for vampire lords.

Save that suddenly you're a magnet for cannons, bolt throwers, and everything else under the sun.

Still though...if the AT added +2 to your save (giving a 2+ save with standard blender loadout) it'd be pretty standard to put your blender on one with a charmed shield and go to town. Having stomp, +1W, and immunity to thunderstomps and KB would be pretty key. I'd throw him head-first into a unit of executioners no problem.

...hell, at 50% lord allowance why throw one when I could throw two

 

[Archamedius]

Save that suddenly you're a magnet for cannons, bolt throwers, and everything else under the sun.

Still though...if the AT added +2 to your save (giving a 2+ save with standard blender loadout) it'd be pretty standard to put your blender on one with a charmed shield and go to town. Having stomp, +1W, and immunity to thunderstomps and KB would be pretty key. I'd throw him head-first into a unit of executioners no problem.

...hell, at 50% lord allowance why throw one when I could throw two

Considering you are have a giant bullseye on your back when mounted on an abyssal terror as it stands today, downgrading it to a monstrous beast seems only like an upgrade to me...

 

[Alabaster427]

Does the AT use the varghulf or vargheist base as far as size?

 

[Adam_Barrow]

40mm.

 

[Alabaster427]

40mm.

What is that in Monster speak? I don't know the metric system...

 

[Melle]

Vargheist use 40mm
Varghulf use 50mm


40 is most commin for MI and MB

50mm is most often Monsters

 

[Alabaster427]

Vargheist use 40mm
Varghulf use 50mm


40 is most commin for I and MB

50mm is most often Monsters

Thank you. Also dang it. That means I made a Varghulf base for no reason...

 

[Adam_Barrow]

This is going off the old official models I have, btw. Melkhior and that Blood Dragon both came with 40mm bases.