Too Long, Didn't Read: How do I make Chaos Warriors look "undead" in my VC Army?
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Sorry, this is kind of longwinded!
When it comes to my army, I am totally stoked right now. I just got my book + battalion in the mail, and my special order minis from Reaper arrived earlier last week. I collected a few pieces I might not need but they look good for what I want (a chaosy Necro, bone armored warrior, ghast, that sort of thing.)
So. I have some 1000+ points of models to work with as a buddy of mine gave me about 36 Chaos Warrior bits (still on the sprews) and 5 chaos knights to work into my army. I had the idea for VC - Chaos theme when he gave me the pieces, but now that I read the timeline (somewhere in the 2500's a Chaos army disappears in Sylvania and breathes new life into the Vampire Counts dwindling numbers!) and it actually fits I could not be more eager to get started.
I've almost got all my supplies and I took inventory of ALL my bits so I could see what potential combinations I could make for the skeletons, zombies and graveguard.
So now I am just trying to find some green stuff, extra stuff for base flocking and fix up a good ol' folding table to make my space for the painting and converting. I've got a plan for a color scheme (that may need to be reworked based on what I decide to do with the Chaos bits I have) but the issue facing me now is: How do I make the heavily armored Chaos Warriors work as VC Troops?
I know there are many ways for me to achieve this and make it look great:
I have no experience with the green stuff modelling yet, and I still have to find / order some. I don't want ALL of my troops to look too hodge-podgey, so I hope to make a Uniform undead Chaos regiment. Whether they would work best as Skeletons, Zombies (Extra Unit of Grave Guard? Spirit Hosts / Cavalry of some sort is almost a given) I am just not sure where to begin just yet.
The problem with skellies is: They are supposed to be light armored and the new models are freaking awesome in their own right. I don't want to water down their new design by tossing random skelly heads on Chaos torsos.
The Zombies is a great possibility given they're simply expected to be animated corpses from a great battle, but part of the Chaos look are those distinctive helmets, so I don't want to simply swap zombie heads off of each Chaos Warrior model. Simply stated, I do not know how I can paint the Heavy Armor of the Chaos Warriors to look DEAD. Since I've already got 36 of the warriors I don't really WANT To buy a unit of Marauders, but they might be easier to convert to Zombies given they are mostly skin and beards.
But then what would I do with all these warriors? Spirit Hosts is a definitely something I plan on doing. I could create a second unit of Chaos Warrior Grave Guard since they are armored for it, but Wights are usually considered a bit more ancient, right?
The Chaos Knights I had originally planned on turning into Black Knights, but I may just go ahead and retool them for Blood Knights after I read more of the fluff books (Liber Chaotica and Necris, I think they are called.) Again, I kind of want to stay closer to canon fluff but I guess a certain level of artisitic liberty may be called for.
Secondly: The colors of my army. I know it is almost becoming cliche around here to use purple, but it is such a great complimentary color to the style and theme of Undeath/royalty it is hard to pass up. That, combined with the fact that I am a Minnesota Vikings Fan (American Football team for everyone in Europe) Their colors are purple and gold, and I think they're just great for a VC army.
I had been planning on using purple as an accent to my Vampire's capes, and shields. Armor was going to be a metallic black.
What are the other colors of Chaos? Khorne is obviously red (and one of the focuses I was going to make because I figured if I wanted to make any Chaos Vampires the followers of a Blood God would probably be the best fit!) Is there a chance my army could clash? Is that something I should not be as concerned with considereing I am only talking about shambling corpses?
Where can I read more about Chaos' color theories? I believe Nurgle is green, Tzeench is blue or Purple or something, what is Chaos Undivided? Black? This is about all I've surmised looking at pics, hehe.
I haven't read all of the Liber Chaotica yet. I'm halfway done with Liber-Necris and I've only had a chance to leaf thru the new VC book.
Edit: The Four Colors of Chaos has all the tutorials I will need RE: Chaos armor color choices. I'll be able to decide later what is best (probably Undivided given it's toned down look.)
If you've read all this: Thank you! If you have any ideas to discuss to a new player (First army!), I'd truly appreciate hearing them!
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Sorry, this is kind of longwinded!
When it comes to my army, I am totally stoked right now. I just got my book + battalion in the mail, and my special order minis from Reaper arrived earlier last week. I collected a few pieces I might not need but they look good for what I want (a chaosy Necro, bone armored warrior, ghast, that sort of thing.)
So. I have some 1000+ points of models to work with as a buddy of mine gave me about 36 Chaos Warrior bits (still on the sprews) and 5 chaos knights to work into my army. I had the idea for VC - Chaos theme when he gave me the pieces, but now that I read the timeline (somewhere in the 2500's a Chaos army disappears in Sylvania and breathes new life into the Vampire Counts dwindling numbers!) and it actually fits I could not be more eager to get started.
I've almost got all my supplies and I took inventory of ALL my bits so I could see what potential combinations I could make for the skeletons, zombies and graveguard.
So now I am just trying to find some green stuff, extra stuff for base flocking and fix up a good ol' folding table to make my space for the painting and converting. I've got a plan for a color scheme (that may need to be reworked based on what I decide to do with the Chaos bits I have) but the issue facing me now is: How do I make the heavily armored Chaos Warriors work as VC Troops?
I know there are many ways for me to achieve this and make it look great:
- Paint Scheme
- Extra Zombie, Skeleton or Ghoul Heads + Bits
- Green Stuff Wounds
I have no experience with the green stuff modelling yet, and I still have to find / order some. I don't want ALL of my troops to look too hodge-podgey, so I hope to make a Uniform undead Chaos regiment. Whether they would work best as Skeletons, Zombies (Extra Unit of Grave Guard? Spirit Hosts / Cavalry of some sort is almost a given) I am just not sure where to begin just yet.
The problem with skellies is: They are supposed to be light armored and the new models are freaking awesome in their own right. I don't want to water down their new design by tossing random skelly heads on Chaos torsos.
The Zombies is a great possibility given they're simply expected to be animated corpses from a great battle, but part of the Chaos look are those distinctive helmets, so I don't want to simply swap zombie heads off of each Chaos Warrior model. Simply stated, I do not know how I can paint the Heavy Armor of the Chaos Warriors to look DEAD. Since I've already got 36 of the warriors I don't really WANT To buy a unit of Marauders, but they might be easier to convert to Zombies given they are mostly skin and beards.
But then what would I do with all these warriors? Spirit Hosts is a definitely something I plan on doing. I could create a second unit of Chaos Warrior Grave Guard since they are armored for it, but Wights are usually considered a bit more ancient, right?
The Chaos Knights I had originally planned on turning into Black Knights, but I may just go ahead and retool them for Blood Knights after I read more of the fluff books (Liber Chaotica and Necris, I think they are called.) Again, I kind of want to stay closer to canon fluff but I guess a certain level of artisitic liberty may be called for.
Secondly: The colors of my army. I know it is almost becoming cliche around here to use purple, but it is such a great complimentary color to the style and theme of Undeath/royalty it is hard to pass up. That, combined with the fact that I am a Minnesota Vikings Fan (American Football team for everyone in Europe) Their colors are purple and gold, and I think they're just great for a VC army.
I had been planning on using purple as an accent to my Vampire's capes, and shields. Armor was going to be a metallic black.
What are the other colors of Chaos? Khorne is obviously red (and one of the focuses I was going to make because I figured if I wanted to make any Chaos Vampires the followers of a Blood God would probably be the best fit!) Is there a chance my army could clash? Is that something I should not be as concerned with considereing I am only talking about shambling corpses?
Where can I read more about Chaos' color theories? I believe Nurgle is green, Tzeench is blue or Purple or something, what is Chaos Undivided? Black? This is about all I've surmised looking at pics, hehe.
I haven't read all of the Liber Chaotica yet. I'm halfway done with Liber-Necris and I've only had a chance to leaf thru the new VC book.
Edit: The Four Colors of Chaos has all the tutorials I will need RE: Chaos armor color choices. I'll be able to decide later what is best (probably Undivided given it's toned down look.)
If you've read all this: Thank you! If you have any ideas to discuss to a new player (First army!), I'd truly appreciate hearing them!