ASF conundrum

[khurdur]

Here's one for you gentlemen. Lets say I have a blender lord on the right hand side of a knight bus, and a nightshroud baby vamp next to him, and I fight elves of any flavour with ASF. Do I get re-rolls?

Because theoretically his ASF is cancelled out by the ASL from the nightshroud, leaving my lord's ASF and re-rolls untouched.

Also, what would happen if the enemy are something with GW like white lions?

 

[najo]

You have first part right. With white lions, can't stack double ASL, so they don't get affected by that part. They do loose their strength bonus though.

 

[Skittelz1981]

Najo has it right

 

[khurdur]

thanks, so my vampire lord does get re-rolls?

 

[Powl]

You get rerolls if the Elves have both ASF and ASL, but only if the Lord's initiative is equal or higher than that of the Elves (so probably not when striking against Elf Lords).

 

[najo]

Powl has it right!

 

[Skittelz1981]

I think elf lords have same initiative as our vamplords.

So: if for any reason any elf gets asl, and you have equal or higher ini and asf, you get to reroll.

In case of nightshroud. the three models in b2b with it get asl, so your asf-lord gets rerolls against the models in b2b with him. all 5 attacks do since the step-up rule males replacing models come in b2b with the nightshroud again.

 

[Ceridar]

Elf Lords have initiative 8, vampire lords have 7.

 

[najo]

Direct those VL's attacks against the rank and file! Smush those elves and make 'em run!'