Composition / ideas help needed 2400pts

[tanis]

My first venture into the world of the un-dead....
Looking to build an army around the mortis engine and ethereal, with no ghouls or zombie elements..
(If i could it wouldn`t have had the skellies!)...didnt want a wolf army here either.

Looking for some constructive comments / help for the list in general,
Trying an allcomers list here , with a good balance.
Dont attend many tourneys

Now I have done some research here,
1..the mortis engine can leave pretty early in the game... a risk I`ll take.
2..Daemons will maul this list,
3..Ghouls and zombie are better for somethings and usefull for others, but dont want that look to the list visually.
4..Or their kin (horrors, carts etc)
5..although a fighty vamp would be nice, just dont have the points, and hope to be raising some troops during the game,
6..love the hexwraith bus.

Usual opponents are beastmen, empire, dark elves, daemons and lizzies

Thanks in advance for any help offered.

2400 Pts - Vampire Counts Army

Unit 1

Master Necromancer
General; Master of the Dead; Lore of Vampires
#Master of the Dead
Nightshroud

Vampire ,Lore of Death; Heavy armour
Aura of Dark Majesty
Dragonbane Gem
Ironcurse Icon

34 Skeleton Warriors FC


Unit 2

Necromancer
Magic Level 1; Lore of Vampires
Rod of Flaming Death

Tomb Banshee

34 Skeleton Warriors FC
Screaming Banner


Unit 3
Necromancer
Magic Level 1; Lore of Vampires
Cursed Book

Tomb Banshee

34 Skeleton Warriors FC


5 Hexwraiths

5 Hexwraiths

Spirit Host

Spirit Host

3 Bat Swarm

Black Coach

Mortis Engine
Blasphemous Tome



Total Army Cost: 2399.0

 

[Bounce]

You have an ethereal army with no cairn wraiths? :O

 

[Seneschal]

Hello. Welcome to the crypt

Your list lacks punch. You've got a hero vamp and a black coach thatmight be able to do damage. I understand you want no zombies or ghoulish units so I'll try to keep it to a theme.
The master Necro needs to be dropped so you have a combat VL. In this list, you need it. Go with a level 3 (at least) with RF, QB, 4+ ward save, Dragonhelm, heavy armor, shield, Other Trickster's Shard and Ogre Blade.

Vamp hero will work better with Red Fury, enchanted shield, heavy armor and sword of swift striking so he/she gets rerolls to hit.
A necro hero should have a dispel scroll, they are near mandatory for this army. Give him master of the dead if you like, I don't feel it's needed. I strongly suggest dropping the second necro hero because those points are better spent on troops or characters that can help those WS 2 Str 3 skellies win combats.
Drop the banshees, you need AoDM to make the wailing list work. The engine's wail won't be enough. Yes, you can pull it off with a pair of the ladies but you need to spend your points on other things in this particular list.
I'd consider just one unit of hexwraiths. They are pricey and one group is usually enough.
Get some more chaff. Use fell bats instead of bat swarms. I love the little guys but you need the "best" throwaway units for this army to work and fell bats are a cheaper and better choice. Get them in groups of two.
I wouldn't take the coach. Either go with four cairn wraiths or squeeze another vamp in so you have killing power.

 

[tanis]

Thank you, i know it lacks punch, and the vamp builds might just be the ticket, i do have more luck with the coach over the cairns, who i loose quick to heavy magic missiles.
then again that could be the punch...it was my hammer...fell bats vs swarm...i get it...and the hexwraiths x 2 ..ok
I,ll try a revamp of the list.....

 

[tanis]

Etheral army is there an archtype list that works..?

 

[Seneschal]

https://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Nag-Nag-Nag-A-2500-VC-list

That's a very nasty, unfriendly list that uses a number of banshees and spirit hosts. The stronger version is further down the first page but it runs double terrorgheist and no wraiths.