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Count Matthewzilla
Vargheist
I'm sorry. Was that sarcasm or did you actually mean that cupped hands would be fun. Hard to tell if sarcasm on the net sometimes. I was just suggesting some ideas to help his slann out.
Count Matthewzilla said:
Yes it was sarcasm (hence the comment on my lists not being tournament lists), I certainly appreciate much of the advise posted here and I shall pass it on.
His list certainly has issues, I don't feel the slaan is the real problem (but certainly a different lore and/or lore master would help). The problem's how static his army is, passing miscasts onto my general is not going to make the game better for either person, nor does it solve the real issue with the army.
Count Matthewzilla
Vargheist
No prob. no offence taken. Just trying to be helpful.
Hmm.. I do see what you mean though. Maybe just try to get in some more games. Experience can go a long way to make the game better. He needs to change stuff up just to try it. I feel for you. It's like trying to get in more games with my wife.
Hmm.. I do see what you mean though. Maybe just try to get in some more games. Experience can go a long way to make the game better. He needs to change stuff up just to try it. I feel for you. It's like trying to get in more games with my wife.
Its cool, I was a bit sarcastic because you mention one of my pet hate items in warhammer, right along with Book of Hoeth and that stupid ogre miscast item :'(
Problem with the guy I'm playing is he has been playing since 5th ed I think (so nearly as long as me, maybe 4th ed), so me beating him is because I am power gaming (apparently). Since he has changed armies from WoC he isn't having the extreme luck he use to have, as such he is now losing (if only to me). I prime example of his previous luck would be his daemon prince beating my blender lord in a challenge :slapface: (yes it was a WoC daemon prince, and it was over 3 rounds of combat).
He's a stubborn bugger, so I have the task of trying to show someone who's been playing 15+ years that while I tend to beat most of the people locally, as does he (because we mainly play in GW, not because I'm some super awesome warhammer player), that:
1) its not because I am a power gamer
2) because his list's are lacking
3) people in GW really don't have a clue
I know for a fact he thinks my chaos is broken as hell, yet its just a cool fluffy Khorne list....
God I hate this town
Problem with the guy I'm playing is he has been playing since 5th ed I think (so nearly as long as me, maybe 4th ed), so me beating him is because I am power gaming (apparently). Since he has changed armies from WoC he isn't having the extreme luck he use to have, as such he is now losing (if only to me). I prime example of his previous luck would be his daemon prince beating my blender lord in a challenge :slapface: (yes it was a WoC daemon prince, and it was over 3 rounds of combat).
He's a stubborn bugger, so I have the task of trying to show someone who's been playing 15+ years that while I tend to beat most of the people locally, as does he (because we mainly play in GW, not because I'm some super awesome warhammer player), that:
1) its not because I am a power gamer
2) because his list's are lacking
3) people in GW really don't have a clue
I know for a fact he thinks my chaos is broken as hell, yet its just a cool fluffy Khorne list....
God I hate this town
Sorry to hear that your gaming milieu is not that good
Regarding him getting beaten by you - he should just take it as a challenge, it's a coward's way out to say that the opponent is playing cheesy(since obviously you're not). I know this probably sounded very harsh, and I'm sure he's a great guy, it's just that I dislike people not taking their own skills into question when they lose.
When I play chess(which I do alot) I love improving my game, and as Capablance once said: I've learned more from the games I've lost than from all the games I've won.
With that said there is a HUGE difference between Chess and WH since Chess is not broken or imbalanced and WH is. And yeah dice are involved, but if you play enough games the statistics should even things out.
Any way you got my word for that you're not playing a powergaming list - I don't know if that counts for something.
Regarding him getting beaten by you - he should just take it as a challenge, it's a coward's way out to say that the opponent is playing cheesy(since obviously you're not). I know this probably sounded very harsh, and I'm sure he's a great guy, it's just that I dislike people not taking their own skills into question when they lose.
When I play chess(which I do alot) I love improving my game, and as Capablance once said: I've learned more from the games I've lost than from all the games I've won.
With that said there is a HUGE difference between Chess and WH since Chess is not broken or imbalanced and WH is. And yeah dice are involved, but if you play enough games the statistics should even things out.
Any way you got my word for that you're not playing a powergaming list - I don't know if that counts for something.
He is under the new player illusion that life is a strong lore without loremaster. Have him try a different lore and he will get better results
@ The Sun King - Thanks, it certainly does 
skill certainly is a issue here, like with my chaos list, the game was very simple, essentially one unit skinks chased after a unit of marauder horsemen on the right flank (no idea why), they other unit didn't seem to do much. He marched both his combat blocks up and kept them pretty tight. I move my 2nd unit of marauder horsemen up so they preventing either unit from charging and I move my units into position to charge, basically it was 8 to charge with the chosen making a overrun very unlikely. My chosen pin his temple guard in place, my crushers frontal charge his saurus and break them on the charge (I killed 16 guys and he didn't accept the challenge). Warriors go into the temple guard the following turn, marauders swing round the back, crushers line up for the flank, warshrine kills his sallies and skinks.
His temple guard have T6 but I still win combat, he gives up because of my dice (I did however roll a lot of 5's to wound and make a lot of wardsaves). I didn't really see what his plan was, I'm guessing he was hoping to absorb my attacks with regen and T6 and break my chosen. With me VC it was pretty much a repeat of that (just replace chosen with wraiths and crushers with rest of army). Of course with the VC is was because he couldn't hurt my wraiths and my blender lord (regardless of me having that 1500pts worth of stuff fighting his saurus!). I'm pretty sure he kept picking up extra dice to hit and wound with as well, meh.
Of course the problem here seems to be the lack of warhammer players in general (not just good ones sadly), hence the tread really, I do miss gaming in London, I use to get far better games, even if Lord Fear did tailor his army to beat me
@ Johnny - I must admit I thought life was better than it was, then again until my mates lizardmen I have never played against it when the other person didn't have loremaster.
Metal slanns would be very unfun to play with my WoC, I think that might actually make me cry, my poor skullcrushers Still I haven't heard from him in mearly two weeks, very strange....
skill certainly is a issue here, like with my chaos list, the game was very simple, essentially one unit skinks chased after a unit of marauder horsemen on the right flank (no idea why), they other unit didn't seem to do much. He marched both his combat blocks up and kept them pretty tight. I move my 2nd unit of marauder horsemen up so they preventing either unit from charging and I move my units into position to charge, basically it was 8 to charge with the chosen making a overrun very unlikely. My chosen pin his temple guard in place, my crushers frontal charge his saurus and break them on the charge (I killed 16 guys and he didn't accept the challenge). Warriors go into the temple guard the following turn, marauders swing round the back, crushers line up for the flank, warshrine kills his sallies and skinks.His temple guard have T6 but I still win combat, he gives up because of my dice (I did however roll a lot of 5's to wound and make a lot of wardsaves). I didn't really see what his plan was, I'm guessing he was hoping to absorb my attacks with regen and T6 and break my chosen. With me VC it was pretty much a repeat of that (just replace chosen with wraiths and crushers with rest of army). Of course with the VC is was because he couldn't hurt my wraiths and my blender lord (regardless of me having that 1500pts worth of stuff fighting his saurus!). I'm pretty sure he kept picking up extra dice to hit and wound with as well, meh.
Of course the problem here seems to be the lack of warhammer players in general (not just good ones sadly), hence the tread really, I do miss gaming in London, I use to get far better games, even if Lord Fear did tailor his army to beat me
@ Johnny - I must admit I thought life was better than it was, then again until my mates lizardmen I have never played against it when the other person didn't have loremaster.
Metal slanns would be very unfun to play with my WoC, I think that might actually make me cry, my poor skullcrushers
Still I haven't heard from him in mearly two weeks, very strange....
Can't stand ragequitters... this is a gentleman's game and if you can handle another mans dice(pun inteded) you should play something else.
Regarding his playstyle it seems to me that his main mistake is thinking the Lizards are a close combat army and that Saurus Warriors are good fighters.
Regarding his playstyle it seems to me that his main mistake is thinking the Lizards are a close combat army and that Saurus Warriors are good fighters.
TBH, I don't see any real issue with people getting annoyed with bad luck, it happens, I certainly found playing this guy annoying when every time we played, as soon as I picked up the dice it went to crap.
I can certainly see what you mean, admittedly, against my army, saurus are still pretty good because of he low combat stats and lack of horde units.
So been nearly two weeks now and not a word, oh dear...
I can certainly see what you mean, admittedly, against my army, saurus are still pretty good because of he low combat stats and lack of horde units.
So been nearly two weeks now and not a word, oh dear...
Count Matthewzilla
Vargheist
That's too bad. I wish people wouldn't get their panty's in a twist. It's a game. Have fun, laugh. Drink. Throw some dice.