Daemons + VCs 1000pts Doubles

[AlexHeap]

I'm going to be taking part in a fantasy doubles tournament in a few months time with me playing Deamons and my partner using Vampire Counts.

Here are the lists we've come up with:

Daemons

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Hero:
Herald of Tzeentch: Master of Sorcery (Lore of Light)
Herald of Khorne
240pts

Core:
37 Bloodletters: Full command, Icon of Endless War
499pts

Rare:
4 Flamers of Tzeentch
1 Fiend of Slaanesh
1 Fiend of Slaanesh
250pts

Total: 989pts
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Vampire Counts

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Lord:
Master Necro, lvl4, talisman of preservation
245pts

Hero:
Necromancer, lvl2, corpse cart, staff of damnation
230pts


Core:
30 skeletons with spears, full command
180 points
30 zombies
90 points
270pts

Special:

20 grave guard, Full command
250pts

Total: 995pts
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Any feedback on either of the lists would be greatly appreciated. One thing I've been thinking about is whether it would be worth dropping the Herald of Tzeentch all together and just allowing the Necromancers full reign in the magic phase. Not sure what I'd spend the spare points on though.

 

[datalink7]

I've never owned the Daemons book, but don't they have ways to lower your leadership by a lot (like, -5)? I'm thinking your friend takes screamers (Terrorgheist/Banshees) and fearbombs, and you lower leadership. That could be a nasty combo.

 

[Tomb King]

Unless there are special rules for the tournament isn't there a minimum amount of core units?

 

[AlexHeap]

@datalink7: Now that is a very interesting idea. I can work out the Daemon side but what would you suggest to drop from the VCs to fit in the terrogheist and some banshees?

@Tomb King: Just the usual minimum of 25% core there's no minimum number of core units.

 

[datalink7]

@datalink7: Now that is a very interesting idea. I can work out the Daemon side but what would you suggest to drop from the VCs to fit in the terrogheist and some banshees?

@Tomb King: Just the usual minimum of 25% core there's no minimum number of core units.

Hmm... well, I think that 20GG is kind of small for that kind of unit. Additionally, you have the hard hitting block of infantry covered with the Bloodletters, so I'd drop those. That frees up points to start working with stuff. You have several options here.

One is just to get a Terrorgheist with the points.

Another is to make one block of skeletons with the screaming banner. Fill the front with banshees and maybe a fighting vampire hero. You'd have to drop the level 2 necro to do that obviously. I wouldn't have him on a Corpse Cart anyway. That's too big of a target. However, Corpse Cart is a cool idea as ASF Bloodletter is never a bad thing. Then again, they'll have hatred anyway if I remember correctly.

I don't have my book with me right now, but his list might look something like:

Level 4 Necro
Fear incarnate Vamp hero with Beguile, built for challenges
4x Banshee (or maybe some wraiths in there to lower cost. Would be good to have the whole front be ethereal except the vamp who would challenge so be out of the fight, or when back in make him hard to kill)
Skeletons with Screaming Banner.
Zombie bunker for Level 4.

Not sure if there is enough points to fit this in 1000 points or not. Might have to substitute some of the banshees for wraiths to save points.