Ghostly howl

[Durgil]

Q: What is the "target unit's Leadership" value for the Ghostly Howl ? Is it the unmodified value, the general value modified or the unit leadership value modified (so they don't get General Bubble)?

For example, I scream at State Troops, within the general bubble, but under the Fatalitas spell's effect. Against which value will I roll ? 7 (unmodified ld), 6 (general bubble - Fatalitas) or 4 (unit ld - Fatalitas).

I think it will be 6, the bubble modified, but I just want to be sure.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Its the highest leadership value in the unit, they do not get a general bubble as its not a leadership test, its just minus their leadership value.
Same as some death spells where it is against their strength, you do no include the great weapon.


If their leadership has been decreased by a spells effect you take off their new leadership value.
Same as a toughness test if you have been the victim of a spell causing you to lose toughness value, like certain nurgle spells for instance.

So as the LD was 7, it is now minus 1 due to the effect from the spell so it is LD 6 it is taken against.
If there was a leadership 10 general standing next to the unit, it would still be leadership 6, he is not in the unit.

Hope this helps to clear things up for you.

 

[Bullhax]

They do get the IP bubble though, IP os not exclusive to leadership tests you use the generals Ld as your own (page 107 BRB) so it would be generals Ld minus the modifier as you aren't shouting against the units unmodified Ld.

 

[Narenzade]

They do get the IP bubble though, IP os not exclusive to leadership tests you use the generals Ld as your own (page 107 BRB) so it would be generals Ld minus the modifier as you aren't shouting against the units unmodified Ld.

Seconded.

 

[midean]

That's a good pg# to remember. You would be surprised how many people think that IP from the general is just for LD test.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Got to admit, I was in that boat.:slapface:
Don't see how it works like that but if it does it does.

 

[Mr MountainEater]

wait so do they get to use the generals LD? or not, im kinda confused

 

[kevin.hopkins7]

They do

 

[Johnny-Crass]

They use generals ld and all modifiers apply.

 

[Drakhaol Von Carstein]

Is the use of the generals ld a choice? If.due to modifiers the generals ld is lower than the units can they elect not to use IP?

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Yes