Ghoul King Outclassed?

[bigbadbat]

The Destroyer's attacks are not magical per the CD faq.
CH are not a good selection against CD, as most of the army (especially WM) have flaming attacks and multiple wounds.

 

[rothgar13]

Sweet! Spirit Hosts it is. I have my answer now.

Edit:

K'daai Destroyer (325) vs. 8 Crypt Horrors, Crypt Haunter (4 x 2, 314)

K'daai charges (higher M). Burning Body inflicts 3 S4 hits on Crypt Horrors. 3 hits, wounding on 5+, allowing no saves.

Math: (3)*(1/3) = 1.00

K'daai strikes first. 6+D3 attacks, hitting on 3+, wounding on 2+, allowing no saves.

Math: (8)*(2/3)*(5/6) = 4.44

Crypt Horrors strike second. 19 attacks, hitting on 4+ (6s auto-wound), wounding on 6+ (must be re-rolled), allowing 4+ Ward save.

Math: (19)*([1/3]*[1/36] + [1/6])*(1/2) = 1.67 ~ 2 Wounds

Destroyer Wounds: 1.00 + 4.44 = 5.44 ~ 5 Wounds (7 Crypt Horrors remain; one has 1 Wound left)

CR (CD): +5 (Wounds) +1 (charge) = +6
CR (VC): +2 (Wounds) +1 (ranks) = +3

CD win by 3, VC crumble by 3 (6 Crypt Horrors remain; one has 1 Wound left).

Round 2:

Burning Body inflicts 3 S4 hits on Crypt Horrors. 3 hits, wounding on 5+, allowing no saves.

Math: (3)*(1/3) = 1.00

K'daai strikes first. 6+D3 attacks, hitting on 3+, wounding on 2+, allowing no saves.

Math: (8)*(2/3)*(5/6) = 4.44

Crypt Horrors strike second. 13 attacks, hitting on 4+ (6s auto-wound), wounding on 6+ (must be re-rolled), allowing 4+ Ward save.

Math: (13)*([1/3]*[1/36] + [1/6])*(1/2) = 1.14 ~ 1 Wound

Destroyer Wounds: 1.00 + 4.44 = 5.44 ~ 5 Wounds (4 Crypt Horrors remain; one has 2 Wounds left)

CR (CD): +5 (Wounds) = +5
CR (VC): +1 (Wounds) = +1

CD win by 4, VC crumble by 4 (3 Crypt Horrors remain; one has 1 Wound left).

Round 3:

Burning Body inflicts 3 S4 hits on Crypt Horrors. 3 hits, wounding on 5+, allowing no saves.

Math: (3)*(1/3) = 1.00

K'daai strikes first. 6+D3 attacks, hitting on 3+, wounding on 2+, allowing no saves.

Math: (8)*(2/3)*(5/6) = 4.44

Crypt Horrors strike second. 4 attacks, hitting on 4+ (6s auto-wound), wounding on 6+ (must be re-rolled), allowing 4+ Ward save.

Math: (4)*([1/3]*[1/36] + [1/6])*(1/2) = 0.35 ~ 0 Wounds

Destroyer Wounds: 1.00 + 4.44 = 5.44 ~ 5 Wounds (Crypt Haunter remains; has 2 Wounds left)

CR (CD): +5 (Wounds) = +5
CR (VC): +0 (Wounds) = +0

CD win by 5, VC crumble by 5 (Crypt Haunter dies).

I will admit, that's a fair bit closer than what I thought it would be, and 9 of them (plus maybe some IoN support) might be able to take him down. But in default circumstances, the Destroyer still wins.

 

[Randar]

Take red fury. Quick blood. And dread knight. Take 3 extra attacks blade. +2 ws ASF and possible 8 extra attacks For 10 points dread knight ability is bad ass.

This us my killy set up. Use your magic to reroll to hit and wound you kill anything you run into

 

[Vipoid]

Take red fury. Quick blood. And dread knight. Take 3 extra attacks blade. +2 ws ASF and possible 8 extra attacks For 10 points dread knight ability is bad ass.

I fear it would do no good in my meta.

WS8 is no different to WS6 against WS9 and WS10 models (i.e. Daemon Princes and Bloodthirsters).

8 attacks are equally meaningless when most will just bounce off toughness or armour.

 

[HERO]

Take red fury. Quick blood. And dread knight. Take 3 extra attacks blade. +2 ws ASF and possible 8 extra attacks For 10 points dread knight ability is bad ass.

I fear it would do no good in my meta.

WS8 is no different to WS6 against WS9 and WS10 models (i.e. Daemon Princes and Bloodthirsters).

8 attacks are equally meaningless when most will just bounce off toughness or armour.

Sounds like a job for Strength Potion tech to me!

 

[Randar]

Strength potion too yes and magic support if your not killing or least winning a combat with 8 attacks with reroll a to hit and wound with ASF. You may need to buy new dice lol!

 

[eggsPR]

Aww come on rothgar, throw in 1 vanhels or hellish vigor and its game over for the Kadaii and u know it

My unit of 8 have never lost to a Khadaii, so my opponents would never charge my 8 CHs... In fact, I'd park dogs in front of him hoping hed fail his frenzy test, overrun exposing a flank then really mess up his day! Bc against CD, dogs are only good at leading around the Khadaii.

VC should never fear a Khadaii... He hasn't wrecked my buzz yet . But maybe I'm lucky with them.

 

[Aedin]

Just a survivable vamp build with OTS in base to base with your lord enemy and a terrorgheist scream should do the job.