Help me slay this dragon!!

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Annie

Grave Guard
Feb 22, 2010
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Walesland
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What can I do in 1000 (maybe 1500) points that will mess up a High elf mage on dragon.... I'm determined I will beat this person if it kills me! Also lots of bolt throwers!
 
Any decently sized infantry unit should be able to withstand the onslaught of a Sun Dragon, provided that you can keep the thing away from your flanks or rear. Ghouls should work well for this, and they also happen to be rather resilient to Bolt Throwers. :)
 
challenge him with your unit champion and break him in combat :skull: ( unless something has changed, i haven't used dragons in........ 15 years) (CAUSE THE ZOMBIE ONE SUCKS HARDCORE)
 
Ive posted in the bats and in the daemons tactic thread a way of dealing with big nasties.

Start with a unit of bats, when the big nasty flies over you (general should be bunkered in a unit behind a block and if dragon charges block he should get tarpitted) charge with the bats and raise into them so that they can hold 1 round of combat.

Move a unit of ghouls to within charge distance of the dragon, no need to van hels as he wont be able to move in his turn if the bats survive 1 round. Mage on dragon = max 7 kills? average about 4-5 so if you can get bats to 11 wounds they should last 1 round.

In elf turn he finishes off bats but cannot move so that in your turn the ghouls can charge him. Once in combat the ghouls will poison the dragon and just kill the mage. Keep raising into them (remember that you have to survive 2 combat rounds between raises) and he is toast.
 
7 dire wolves with a doom wolf, behind your lines where they should be, will also stall the dragon for a round when you challenge and do so cheaper than the bats. Challenge, lose all but one doggie - moves the ghouls in as above and job should be done.
 
Is he running that item that gives magic attacks on the mage? If not, just take Spectral Form and float about with some Wraiths, immune to his attacks (and the bolt throwers, and pretty much his entire army). Banshee Scream his pansy Ld8 ass to hell xD

Or give him Flying Horror (if you're both flying, he should never be able to catch you if you're smart) and Armour of Night (so its -3 in total to hit him with bolt throwers).

Or just sit in a full block of Skeletons with War Banner and Walking Death and let him fight your champion. He should run... (should xD) probably best to have a second unit with champion ready to flank him just in case. Also nice if you can get some wolves or raised zombies behind him, so he runs through them and is destroyed automatically, as you're unlikely to catch him with your foot troops.

Failing all of that, have your general sit in a wood. The Dragon can't enter the wood with flying movement and can only see 2" through it.
 
Also remember that while the mage gets ASF, the dragon does NOT (I had a high elf player who... "forgot" this fact on a number of occasions :P)
 
Or, if your feeling heroic, tool up your general, whap him in a unit of blood knights and charge. With a bit of luck you should cause a lot of damage (or die a horrible death, but hey at least it will look cool :mrgreen: )
 
Simply get two zombie dragons with tooled up lords on them (preferably dreadlance on one)in your list, and charge them both into his dragon.
Then take photos.
Then laugh.
Then place your zombie dragons on the casualties board.
 
What would you guys reccomend for defeating the WE twins on dragon?

Those that don't know...basically you have to kill both the same turn cause end of turn if one is still alive the other one is brought back to life. All hits to this thing are randomized...no declaring hits to sisters only...according to my opponent (she could have misread/misinterpretted the rules). I've only ever broken them in combat once and that was because double sixes came up. in their Ld Test..only roll in my favor of the match.
 
What would you guys reccomend for defeating the WE twins on dragon?

Those that don't know...basically you have to kill both the same turn cause end of turn if one is still alive the other one is brought back to life. All hits to this thing are randomized...no declaring hits to sisters only...according to my opponent (she could have misread/misinterpretted the rules). I've only ever broken them in combat once and that was because double sixes came up. in their Ld Test..only roll in my favor of the match.
Same way you deal with any dragon: engage with a ranked block and beat it on combat res.

Or Frostblade/Dreadlance Lord.

Do they have magical attacks? If not, then Wraiths.
 
Annie said:
What can I do in 1000 (maybe 1500) points that will mess up a High elf mage on dragon.... I'm determined I will beat this person if it kills me! Also lots of bolt throwers!

I am surprised your having trouble to be honest. That he has a mage on a dragon to me is some what baffling. Why would some one want to put there mage in a place where he can be engaged in combat.

Since i also have a high elf army, i hope i can be of help. Really quickly lets make sure the combat is going correct.

Allways strike first, applys to the mage, and not to his dragon. Thats a key thing to remember. (as has been mentioned)

Now, some how i find it hard to believe the mage is killing your general Stat wise, your going way before the dragon. So don't bother with the dragon after the mage attacks you. Rip his head off! That should force the dragon to make a monstrous creature check .

first off you said you want to kill the dragon... so why the ethereal route is certainly an option if you want to really make him cry Take that along with a Frost blade. Add in beguile to for fun.hate might not be a bad idea as well. All it takes is one wound and that dragon is dust. The dragons save dosn't amount to much after your Lords str knocks it down a few. Kill that model and you've just whacked a huge part of his army.

As was said, Challenge with your unit champ the first round to negate the charge bonus and you should be solid.
 
Fodderboy said:
Wraiths work a treat.

If he's got a magic weapon/flaming sword, challenge with the banshee, and your wraiths get to chop things for free.

The dragon goes in the challage with the mage, so the wraiths can't chop anything :|, also if he challanges you can't decline (unless you have loads of wraiths)
 
Lord Reginer said:
Now, some how i find it hard to believe the mage is killing your general Stat wise, your going way before the dragon. So don't bother with the dragon after the mage attacks you. Rip his head off! That should force the dragon to make a monstrous creature check .

Lol, but the results of the monster reaction can only be pass (useless), stupid (useless), unbreakable (uhh-oh) or frenzy + hatred (zoinks!). Although I'd still hit the Mage anyway, it's almost guaranteed to make the enemy lose a Mage before the next magic phase.
 

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