How to build your BK-Deathstar-bus army (advanced)
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Great thread! Awesome in depth look and advice from every one on running the BK star.
Sooooo what about black knight and blood knight death stars?...in the same army!?!? Could this be a viable option at all even? Or is it way too many points??
Sooooo what about black knight and blood knight death stars?...in the same army!?!? Could this be a viable option at all even? Or is it way too many points??
Talon said:
Ouch 1500 is hard since at that point you only have 375 points for a vampire Lord. He wont be invincible at that point range I'm afraid. But I would have him as a lvl 1 with Enchanted Shield, Heavy armour, Talisman of Preservation, Red Fury and either quickblood or a magic weapon like Sword of swift slaying or Sword of battle.
Then I would have like 100 Zombies, 20 in every unit and 2 units of 5 Wolves, 1 lvl 2 necromancer with Dispel Scroll, a Vampire Hero BSB with lore of death equipped with items and powers from my first post on the first page, 10 Black Knights with Full Command and a Terrorgheist. Maybe a magic banner for the Black Knights or something if u can fit it in.
BloodbathMcGrath said:
Thanks for the feedback!
To be honest it would be hard to play competitive with a Blood Knight Death star. You have to understand that the black knights is pretty much nothing more than extra wounds for the unit making Blood Knights do pretty much the same thing for twice the points. The only upside is that if you only have 1 Lord and 2 heroes you will have 2 Blood Knights attacking with all their attacks and Flag of Blood Keep would be extremely useful against races like Dwarves. Still not worth it's points even if it's a cool idea.
Also we have to keep in mind we have Terrorgheist, we really want two of those, to me they are simply the best monster in the game.
Gaze-bo said:
Grrrrr! I just wish they weren't such a bloody nuisance to construct (let alone paint). It must be why the painters from Hong Kong never seem to offer them on Ebay though they paint every other bloody monster in the game (including the Zombie Dragon).
I guess I see how black knights act as extra wounds, and TG are wayyy too good to pass up in most lists, I suppose. The other thing I see about this set up is all of the zombies you run- how do you get them to keep up with the army at all? They will end up lagging so far behind...
Yorga said:Gaze-bo said:
Grrrrr! I just wish they weren't such a bloody nuisance to construct (let alone paint). It must be why the painters from Hong Kong never seem to offer them on Ebay though they paint every other bloody monster in the game (including the Zombie Dragon).
It's funny you should say that, my girlfriend, another friend and me had a workshop-night and I was supposed to put my first Terrorgheist together and paint it. After 8 hours I still hadn't finished it because I constantly put the legs and arms togheter in the wrong way. There was so much glue and trashed pieces that I had to start greenstuff it (which made it worse). I have never been that sad/angry at a stupid warhammer piece ever except... It took me another 3 hours to fix it after a few months when I got tired to have a huge pile of green stuff covered pieces on the base saying "well you know, my vampire is rising it right now". My second terrorgheist I put togheter in less than an hour. I guess you don't make the same mistakes twice.
pehldog63 said:
I will put up my last tournament army asap and link it here. Will do this week/weekend. Stay tuned
erv:.BloodbathMcGrath said:
as I explained in "how to use" I only rush my deathstar forward when facing a shooty army (Dwarf, Wood Elves and Ogre Kingdoms. in other situations I try to cast VDM first and second round giving my ghouls and army-list allot of mobility but it's true, sometimes they won't keep up but that doesn't really matter since our Deathstar only needs the support from Vargheists, Terrorgheists, hex wraiths and spirit hosts. Besides, it's not the zombies you deploy that's most important, it's the zombies you raise with raise dead, and the raise dead zombies wont move that much
.Gaze-bo said:Yorga said:Gaze-bo said:
Grrrrr! I just wish they weren't such a bloody nuisance to construct (let alone paint). It must be why the painters from Hong Kong never seem to offer them on Ebay though they paint every other bloody monster in the game (including the Zombie Dragon).
It's funny you should say that, my girlfriend, another friend and me had a workshop-night and I was supposed to put my first Terrorgheist together and paint it. After 8 hours I still hadn't finished it because I constantly put the legs and arms togheter in the wrong way. There was so much glue and trashed pieces that I had to start greenstuff it (which made it worse). I have never been that sad/angry at a stupid warhammer piece ever except... It took me another 3 hours to fix it after a few months when I got tired to have a huge pile of green stuff covered pieces on the base saying "well you know, my vampire is rising it right now". My second terrorgheist I put togheter in less than an hour. I guess you don't make the same mistakes twice.
Well, lucky for me that I have been constructing models since I was a wee lad of 10 or so. Use to do WWII model tanks and aircraft. Then I have daddy experience putting together playsets and such for the kids at Christmas time. However, GW absolutely sucks when it comes to written/diagrammed instructions. You have to go slow and dry fit EVERYTHING first. It's a complicated piece to be sure. My time is so limited and I have so many projects demanding it. I buy really niced painted models from Ebay when I can. As much as the new Dragon Ogres looked like an exciting project to do, I realistically know I won't have time to get them done so I went ahead and commissioned 6 from Wardragon Painting in Hong Kong.
Oops...think I derailed the thread here.
I just won a local friendly three-game tournament with a BK bus led by a blender Vamp Lord and WK with a vamp hero on foot leading 80 zombies. (Amazing how many templates that attracts that should be fired at the BK bus.)
The BK bus wasn't as tuned up as the ones being discussed here.
First game hit a OK death star on turn two with a BK charge. The VL blender had sword of the anti-heroes and deathstar had three characters. I beat him by 17 but he rolled snake eyes on his Ld test!!! But beat him again next round and he fled off board. Massacre.
Second game against lizards got my BK bus randomly deployed on right flank and his main force on my left flank. Manouvred poorly but my chaff held him off and ended 11-9 for me.
Third game versus wood elfs was meeting engagement. I set up first but BK bus started off board. He deployed too close and I charged him second turn. And his Lvl 4 mage exploded first turn. Vargulf held up tree man for whole game. Massacre.
The BK bus wasn't as tuned up as the ones being discussed here.
First game hit a OK death star on turn two with a BK charge. The VL blender had sword of the anti-heroes and deathstar had three characters. I beat him by 17 but he rolled snake eyes on his Ld test!!! But beat him again next round and he fled off board. Massacre.
Second game against lizards got my BK bus randomly deployed on right flank and his main force on my left flank. Manouvred poorly but my chaff held him off and ended 11-9 for me.
Third game versus wood elfs was meeting engagement. I set up first but BK bus started off board. He deployed too close and I charged him second turn. And his Lvl 4 mage exploded first turn. Vargulf held up tree man for whole game. Massacre.