Johnny's Non-VC Army Lists

[Johnny-Crass]

I am hoping to if all the stars aline correctly

 

[xFallenx]

Heya Johnny;
I'm gearing up for a tourney & could use your help. What would you run for a DE force? As far as my own restrictions, I would like to dominate Magic & movement. I was thinking of a large Spear bunker and Flank unit while the rest of the army would consist of cavelry & scouts. (I have 12 Knights, 18 DR's, 2 Chariots, Dragon, 2 Master Peggy's and a Sorc peggy painted). I have a list written out already, but I can't shake the feeling that I'm over looking something:
Offence 2,996
Lord: 558(18%)
~ Dreadlord(140), Pendant, Crown, Dragon H, HA, SDC, GW, Dragon:558pts

Hero’s: 591(20%)
~ Master, Peggy, Cloak of HG, Dawnstone,Beast master scourge,lance, HA, Shield, BSB:221pts
~ Lvl 2, Dispell, Pearl of Inf Bleakness:185pts. Shadow.
~ Lvl 2, Feedback scroll:185pts. Fire.

Core:754(25%)
~ 6 x Dark Riders w xbows & Music: 139pts
~ 6 x Dark Riders w xbows & Music: 139pts
~ 6 x Dark Riders w xbows & Music: 139pts
~ 52 Spears with leaders & Banner of Flame: 337

Special: 512 (17%)
~ 6 Shades: xxpts
~ 6 Shades: xxpts
~ 20 BG, leaders, Banner of Murder:320pts

Rare: 235(8%)
~ Hydra xx
~ 5 Harpies w Chaos Wildfire(Storm of Magic, magical flaming attacks, my only ethereal defense) 60

Other: 345(12%)
~ 5 Harpies: xxpts
Choice of:
~ 8 Cold One Knights, leaders & Standard of HG: 291
~ 2x Cold One Chariot:xx
or
~ Assassin, Manbane & Rending stars: 145pts
~ Assassin, Manbane & Rending stars: 145pts
~ Unit of BG from 20 – no frills 10
~ Shade units from 6-5.

Total:2,995pts(Assassins) or 2,996(Cold one Knights)

 

[Johnny-Crass]

How many points of storm can you take? And can you use monsterous arcana?

 

[Tawg]

I thought you weren't allowed to list individual point cost of say, base cost for models or items. So for example a character with a GW you can list the price together, but if you bought stock no upgrades you could not list the cost. Or units that have no champion upgrades, can't price those out either? Maybe things changed since I last was around?

 

[xFallenx]

I thought you weren't allowed to list individual point cost of say, base cost for models or items. So for example a character with a GW you can list the price together, but if you bought stock no upgrades you could not list the cost. Or units that have no champion upgrades, can't price those out either? Maybe things changed since I last was around?

Fix'd, we need to list all points costs/item on the submitted list, I neglected to remove them when I grabbed the list.

@ Johnny C:
Scrolls of binding released via white dwarf, digital download, Storm of Magic, Warhammer Forge ,Thamurkhan, and Monster Arcana. Players may choose to take these as part of their armies. They are taken as rare choices and will count towards your rare Percentages.

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Then drop a chariot the harpies and the hydra and add a kdaii destroyer with wings

 

[Melle]

just saw your last vid, j-c.
nice overhaul on the empire book.

sound is getting worse on the last 2, and this
last one a step more worse, any idea why?

listening through phone speakers while driving, and its been ok on the earlier vids, but on this last it was impossible while driving. even with earphones in it was hard sometimes to get it all. other than that, keep it up.
oh, and do high elves next, so to have it before new one comes.

 

[xFallenx]

Then drop a chariot the harpies and the hydra and add a kdaii destroyer with wings

What do you think about this as the final?
Lord: 558(18%)
~ Dreadlord, Pendant, Crown, Dragon H, HA, SDC, GW, Dragon:558pts

Hero’s: 585(20%)
~ Master, Peggy, Cloak of HG, Dawnstone, lance, HA, shield, BSB:215pts
~ Lvl 2, Dispell, Pearl of Inf Bleakness:185pts. Shadow.
~ Lvl 2, Feedback scroll:185pts. Fire.

Core:754(25%)
~ 6 x Dark Riders w xbows & Music: 139pts
~ 6 x Dark Riders w xbows & Music: 139pts
~ 6 x Dark Riders w xbows & Music: 139pts
~ 52 Spears with leaders & Banner of Flame: 337

Special: 732 (24%)
~ 5 Shades: xxpts
~ 5 Shades: xxpts
~ 17 BG, Leaders, Banner of Murder:281pts
~ 8 Cold One Knights, leaders & Standard of HG: 291pts

Rare: 365(12%)
K’daai with wings & breath: 365.

2,994 total

 

[Johnny-Crass]

With the destroyer you will not need banner of Flame on your units so I would suggest maybe swiftness so that you can keep up with the rest of your line. Other than that I would say enjoy your wins and the dirty looks

 

[xFallenx]

With the destroyer you will not need banner of Flame on your units so I would suggest maybe swiftness so that you can keep up with the rest of your line. Other than that I would say enjoy your wins and the dirty looks

Thanks mate! I'm just breaking into this Meta group & from what I've heard it has a lot of OP players and a handful of "fluffy" players. The General consensus is that choosing a dragon is considered "fluffy" so I'll use that, lack of Hydra's & no Dagger to back me up....all the while crossing my fingers behind my back. HaHa

 

[Melle]

just realized i posted wrong thread on your vid....
pretend i posted it in 'dear johnny'

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Doombull: Ramhorn Helm; Gnarled Hide; Dawnstone; Warrior Bane; heavy armour; shield. 313
Great Bray-Shaman: Talisman Of Preservation; Dispel Scroll; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Shadow. 305

Gorebull: Charmed Shield; Talisman Of Endurance; Iron Curse Icon; heavy armour; Battle Standard. 233

15 Gors: Musician. 110
15 Gors: Musician. 110
15 Gors: Musician. 110
15 Gors: Musician. 110
15 Gors: Musician. 110
15 Gors: Musician. 110
Tuskgor Chariot
Tuskgor Chariot

7 Minotaurs: Bloodkine; Musician; Standard Bearer. 435
1 Razorgor
1 Razorgor

Ghorgon

2,491 points

 

[Yorga]

Johnny:

My son's Dwarves fought me to a draw yesterday. You should mop me up with little problem. Though....I did find an effective tactic to use against you. It requires some luck though...

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Do tell

 

[Yorga]

Do tell

What? And give away what lil advantage I might get? I think not....

 

[Johnny-Crass]

 

[Yorga]

I just feel sorry for poor Larry if he gets you for round 2 after you both score 20-5 victories... :slapface:

I need to work real hard to make sure you don't get your bonus points.

My son's cannons and organ gun vaporized my Dragon Ogres on turn one yesterday. My bad for setting up to the line. :grave:

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Happily with my club I wont really risk playing any of them besides maybe Micah. If I play more than 2 Misfire boys you lot will have every right to write me into your books of grudges

 

[xFallenx]

Then drop a chariot the harpies and the hydra and add a kdaii destroyer with wings

Boo, Looks like I can't take the destroyer unless I run the CD's to go with them. So I still need to fill the 365pts. Suggestions?
No Death Elemental;
No Destroyer;
No Basalisk;
Looks like everything else is good to go.

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Carmine or Shard Dragon both jump to mind as does the biggest MyrWyrm thing

 

[The Sun King]

Hey Johnny I'm considering starting up a WoC Slaanesh army - could you fix me up with such a list?

Restrictions:
2500 pts
Pure Slaanesh

 

[badfox7]

Hey johnny I just picked up a dwarf army and know not much about them. I was wondering if you could show me a comptetive 2500 point list.

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Dwarf Runelord 390
Anvil
Master Rune of Balance
Rune of Spellbreaking

Thane BSB 135
Master Rune of Gromil
Rune of Preservation
Rune of Fire

10 Quarrelers 110

10 Quarrelers 110

35 Warrior Rangers 410
Full Command
Great Weapons

33 Hammerers 408
Gatekeeper

21 Miners 271
Muso+ Champ
Steam Drill

21 Miners 271
Muso+CHamp
Steam Drill

Grudge Thrower 175
2x Rune of Penetration
Rune of Accuracy

Organ Gun XXX

Organ Gun XXX

Total: 2500

List is very easy to use. You find yourself a nice table corner and deploy with the anvil in the back, then the Grudge and Organs, then Hammers and maybe Warriors depending on who you are facing, then quarrelers and make sure your front arc has two exposed table edges. They will funnel into your little cone and them with the steamdrills rerolling successful rolls until you need the miners you bring them on and anvil them into the flanks. Very simple and very effective.

 

[badfox7]

Wow. Thank you. I will try it out and let you know how I do.

 

[Yorga]

Wow. Thank you. I will try it out and let you know how I do.

Badfox. THIS is a more effective (competitive) Dwarf army. Dwarves are not Johnny's forte. This was my son's list. We tweeked the characters a bit after where the Runelord has the +1 toughness rune and only a 2+ armor save. Also took away his great weapon.

We made the Thane so he had a 1+ armor save instead. Master Rune of Gromril.

This army absolutely kills things like Dragons, Screaming Bells, Hydras, Greater Demons... And Monstrous Cav.

Dwarf Lord
1 Dwarf Lord, Great Weapon + Shieldbearers 25
1 Runic Weapon, 40 pts = (base cost 0 + Master Rune of Kragg the Grim 20 +
Rune of Cleaving x1 20)
1 Runic Armour, 30 pts = (base cost 0 + Rune of Resistance 25 + Rune of
Stone 5)
1 Runic Talisman, 45 pts = (base cost 0 + Master Rune of Spite 45)

Runelord
1 Runelord, Great Weapon
1 Runic Armour, 50 pts = (base cost 0 + Master Rune of Gromril 25 + Rune
of Resistance 25)
1 Runic Talisman, 100 pts = (base cost 0 + Master Rune of Spellbinding 50
+ Rune of Spellbreaking x2 50)

Thane
1 Thane (Battle Standard Bearer), 90 pts = (base cost 65 + Battle Standard
Bearer 25)
1 Runic Weapon, 65 pts = (base cost 0 + Rune of Cleaving x2 40 + Rune of
Snorri Spangelhelm x1 25)
1 Runic Armour, 5 pts = (base cost 0 + Rune of Stone 5)

Dwarf Ranger Quarllers x 20 with great weapons and FC (300 pts)


20 x Thunderers FC

Ironbreakers (25#, 355 pts)
24 Ironbreakers,FC


Hammerers (25#, 324 pts)
24 Hammerers, FC


Artillery Battery
1 Cannon, + Rune of Burning + Rune of Forging

Artillery Battery
1 Cannon, + Rune of Forging

Artillery Battery
1 Organ Gun,

Artillery Battery
1 Bolt Thrower, + Rune of Penetrating