Johnny's Non-VC Army Lists
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Great Bray-Shaman: Jagged Dagger; Fencers Blades; Talisman Of Endurance; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts.
Great Bray-Shaman: Talisman Of Preservation; The Steel-claws; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts.
Wargor: Gnarled Hide; The Beast Banner; heavy armour; shield; Battle Standard.
Bray-Shaman: Shard of the Herdstone; Lore of Shadow.
Bray-Shaman: Lore of Shadow.
48 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon.
Tuskgor Chariot
Tuskgor Chariot
Tuskgor Chariot
5 Ungor Raiders
30 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer; Standard Of Discilpline.
5 Harpies
5 Harpies
Ghorgon
Saurus Oldblood: Sacred Stegadon Helm Of Itza; Talisman Of Endurance; The Other Tricksters Shard; Carnosaur (Loping Stride); light armour; shield.
Saurus Scar-Veteran: Armor Of Fortune ; Carnosaur (Loping Stride); shield; Battle Standard.
39 Saurus Warriors: Spawn Leader; Musician; Standard Bearer.
10 Skink Skirmishers: Patrol Leader.
11 Skink Skirmishers: Patrol Leader.
Stegadon: Sharpened Horns.
Stegadon: Sharpened Horns.
Ancient Stegadon: Sharpened Horns.
Ancient Stegadon: Engine of the Gods; Sharpened Horns.
Great Bray-Shaman: Talisman Of Preservation; The Steel-claws; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts.
Wargor: Gnarled Hide; The Beast Banner; heavy armour; shield; Battle Standard.
Bray-Shaman: Shard of the Herdstone; Lore of Shadow.
Bray-Shaman: Lore of Shadow.
48 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon.
Tuskgor Chariot
Tuskgor Chariot
Tuskgor Chariot
5 Ungor Raiders
30 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer; Standard Of Discilpline.
5 Harpies
5 Harpies
Ghorgon
Saurus Oldblood: Sacred Stegadon Helm Of Itza; Talisman Of Endurance; The Other Tricksters Shard; Carnosaur (Loping Stride); light armour; shield.
Saurus Scar-Veteran: Armor Of Fortune ; Carnosaur (Loping Stride); shield; Battle Standard.
39 Saurus Warriors: Spawn Leader; Musician; Standard Bearer.
10 Skink Skirmishers: Patrol Leader.
11 Skink Skirmishers: Patrol Leader.
Stegadon: Sharpened Horns.
Stegadon: Sharpened Horns.
Ancient Stegadon: Sharpened Horns.
Ancient Stegadon: Engine of the Gods; Sharpened Horns.
Was thinking six wide 5 deep?
Daemon Prince: Scaled Skin; Dragon Bane Gem; Chaos armour; Daemonic Flight; Daemon of Slaanesh. 325
Daemon Prince: Chaos armour; Daemonic Flight; Daemon of Slaanesh. 300
Chaos Sorceror: Talisman Of Endurance; Dragon Helm; Chaos Familiar; Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Tzeentch; Mark of Tzeentch. 225
• Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
Chaos Chariot: Mark of Slaanesh. 115
Chaos Chariot: Mark of Slaanesh. 115
Chaos Chariot: Mark of Slaanesh. 115
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
5 Chosen: Chosen Champion; Mark of Slaanesh. 105
5 Chosen: Chosen Champion; Mark of Slaanesh. 105
5 Chosen: Chosen Champion; Mark of Slaanesh. 105
2,490 points
Daemon Prince: Scaled Skin; Dragon Bane Gem; Chaos armour; Daemonic Flight; Daemon of Slaanesh. 325
Daemon Prince: Chaos armour; Daemonic Flight; Daemon of Slaanesh. 300
Chaos Sorceror: Talisman Of Endurance; Dragon Helm; Chaos Familiar; Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Tzeentch; Mark of Tzeentch. 225
• Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
Chaos Chariot: Mark of Slaanesh. 115
Chaos Chariot: Mark of Slaanesh. 115
Chaos Chariot: Mark of Slaanesh. 115
10 Chaos Marauders: Marauder Chieftain; Mark of Slaanesh; light armour; flails. 110
Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
Chaos Warshrine: Mark of Tzeentch. 135
5 Chosen: Chosen Champion; Mark of Slaanesh. 105
5 Chosen: Chosen Champion; Mark of Slaanesh. 105
5 Chosen: Chosen Champion; Mark of Slaanesh. 105
2,490 points
Nightreaver
Ghoul
Johnny, do you think this would work?
THE SKINKZILLA!!!
LORDS
Oldblood: carnosaur, loping stride, piranha blade, sacred stegadon helm of itza, luckstone, potion of speed
HEROES
Skink Priest: level 2, ancient stegadon
Skink Chief: BSB, javelin, shield
CORE
Cohort: 32 skinks, full command, poisoned attacks, 4 kroxigor
13 Skirmishers
13 Skirmishers
SPECIAL
Stegadon
Stegadon
Bastiladon: solar engine
3 Ripperdactyl Riders: brave
RARE
Ancient Stegadon
Total: 2500 pts (should be, I was counting as I went with it)
No one really expects 6 huge monsters
And it keeps with your theme of not relying on magic.
Edit: Just noticed you already made similar list but with saurus instead of cohort...
THE SKINKZILLA!!!
LORDS
Oldblood: carnosaur, loping stride, piranha blade, sacred stegadon helm of itza, luckstone, potion of speed
HEROES
Skink Priest: level 2, ancient stegadon
Skink Chief: BSB, javelin, shield
CORE
Cohort: 32 skinks, full command, poisoned attacks, 4 kroxigor
13 Skirmishers
13 Skirmishers
SPECIAL
Stegadon
Stegadon
Bastiladon: solar engine
3 Ripperdactyl Riders: brave
RARE
Ancient Stegadon
Total: 2500 pts (should be, I was counting as I went with it)
No one really expects 6 huge monsters
And it keeps with your theme of not relying on magic.Edit: Just noticed you already made similar list but with saurus instead of cohort...
Few lists for next tournament season
Daemon Prince: 0: Magic Weapon; 0: Magic Weapon; Level 4 Wizard; Daemon Lore of Tzeentch; Tzeentch dedication; Chaos Armour; Deamonic Flight.
Herald of Tzeentch: Level 2; Lore of Metal; Disc of Tzeentch; Battle Standard.
10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch: Standard Bearer.
10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch: Standard Bearer.
14 Daemonettes of Slaanesh: Musician; Standard Bearer; Banner Of Swiftness.
14 Daemonettes of Slaanesh: Musician; Standard Bearer; Gleaming Pendant .
1 Beasts Of Nurgle
1 Beasts Of Nurgle
3 Screamers of Tzeentch
3 Screamers of Tzeentch
3 Blood Chrushers Of Khorne: Standard Bearer.
5 Chaos Furies: 5× Daemon of Tzeentch.
Skull Cannon Of Khorne
Skull Cannon Of Khorne
Soul Grinder: Daemon of Tzeentch; Daemonbane Claw.
2500
Liche High Priest: Earthing Rod; Pigeon Plucker Pendant; Level 4 Wizard.
Liche High Priest: Cloak of the Dunes; Neferra's Scrolls of Mighty Incantations; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Death.
Tomb Prince: Charmed Shield; Talisman Of Preservation; General ; Khemrian Warsphinx (Envenomed Sting; Fiery Roar); great weapon.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
14 Skeleton Archers: Master of Arrows; musician; standard bearer.
5 Skeleton Horse Archers: standard bearer.
5 Skeleton Horse Archers: standard bearer.
5 Skeleton Horse Archers: standard bearer.
Khemrian Warsphinx: Fiery Roar.
Khemrian Warsphinx: Fiery Roar.
Khemrian Warsphinx: Fiery Roar.
Screaming Skull Catapult
Casket of Souls
2500
Supreme Sorceress: General; Cloak Of Twilight; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Sorceress: Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Sorceress: Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Sorceress: Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Master: Battle Standard Bearer; Enchanted Shield; Talisman Of Preservation; Dark Pegasus; heavy armour; Sea Dragon Cloak.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
10 Shades: great weapon.
10 Shades: great weapon.
5 Harpies
6 Doomfire Warlocks
6 Doomfire Warlocks
Kharibdyss
2500
Daemon Prince: 0: Magic Weapon; 0: Magic Weapon; Level 4 Wizard; Daemon Lore of Tzeentch; Tzeentch dedication; Chaos Armour; Deamonic Flight.
Herald of Tzeentch: Level 2; Lore of Metal; Disc of Tzeentch; Battle Standard.
10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch: Standard Bearer.
10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch: Standard Bearer.
14 Daemonettes of Slaanesh: Musician; Standard Bearer; Banner Of Swiftness.
14 Daemonettes of Slaanesh: Musician; Standard Bearer; Gleaming Pendant .
1 Beasts Of Nurgle
1 Beasts Of Nurgle
3 Screamers of Tzeentch
3 Screamers of Tzeentch
3 Blood Chrushers Of Khorne: Standard Bearer.
5 Chaos Furies: 5× Daemon of Tzeentch.
Skull Cannon Of Khorne
Skull Cannon Of Khorne
Soul Grinder: Daemon of Tzeentch; Daemonbane Claw.
2500
Liche High Priest: Earthing Rod; Pigeon Plucker Pendant; Level 4 Wizard.
Liche High Priest: Cloak of the Dunes; Neferra's Scrolls of Mighty Incantations; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Death.
Tomb Prince: Charmed Shield; Talisman Of Preservation; General ; Khemrian Warsphinx (Envenomed Sting; Fiery Roar); great weapon.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
10 Skeleton Archers: musician.
14 Skeleton Archers: Master of Arrows; musician; standard bearer.
5 Skeleton Horse Archers: standard bearer.
5 Skeleton Horse Archers: standard bearer.
5 Skeleton Horse Archers: standard bearer.
Khemrian Warsphinx: Fiery Roar.
Khemrian Warsphinx: Fiery Roar.
Khemrian Warsphinx: Fiery Roar.
Screaming Skull Catapult
Casket of Souls
2500
Supreme Sorceress: General; Cloak Of Twilight; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Sorceress: Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Sorceress: Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Sorceress: Lore of Light; Dark Pegasus.
Master: Battle Standard Bearer; Enchanted Shield; Talisman Of Preservation; Dark Pegasus; heavy armour; Sea Dragon Cloak.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
5 Dark Riders: Musician; Standard Bearer; repeater crossbow.
10 Shades: great weapon.
10 Shades: great weapon.
5 Harpies
6 Doomfire Warlocks
6 Doomfire Warlocks
Kharibdyss
2500
Count Matthewzilla
Vargheist
good to have you back Johnny.
school going ok for ya?
@matthewzilla . a quick guess
fast cav with 4+ save at 20 points.
only thing better is magic casting fast cav with 4+ ward 2a str 4 poison basically immune to misscast, but those are already maxxed out
super fast army that dictates the movement phase and by that hopefully the game.
coven of light is just a bonus
school going ok for ya?
@matthewzilla . a quick guess
fast cav with 4+ save at 20 points.
only thing better is magic casting fast cav with 4+ ward 2a str 4 poison basically immune to misscast, but those are already maxxed out
super fast army that dictates the movement phase and by that hopefully the game.
coven of light is just a bonus
Count Matthewzilla
Vargheist
Hey melle hows it going? Yeah i can see that. Cav core is really strong in my high elves thesr days too.
The list is pure avoidance hammer. Honestly very boring and surgical to play. And school is fun
Johnny-Crass said:
Warriors of Chaos with Flying DP, Chimera and chariots will wreck this list. Solid gunlines will destroy it. HighElf/Woodelf armies with a fair amount of shooting will score some easy points and then just give it the finger. You can't count on magic to win games Johnny. Not in my meta where most of my friends field 6 levels of magic.
Oh and the harpies are a waste. Better to take 5 more naked Dark Riders.
I've already played a similar list but with a big bus of warlocks and armored up masters. You might think this army is super manueverable but all those little cav units get in each others' way. Makes it real easy for your opponent to line up charges that will make them bounce through units and off the table.
2500 Pts - Dark Elves Roster - Swift Death
Supreme Sorceress
1 Supreme Sorceress, (Hekarti's Blessing; Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Level 4 Upgrade; Hand Weapon)
1 Dark Pegasus (Flyer; Stomp; Swiftstride)
1 Channeling Staff
1 Cloak of Twilight
1 The Lore of Death
Dreadlord
1 Dreadlord, (General; Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Armour of Destiny
Master
1 Master (Battle Standard Bearer), (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Battle Standard Bearer; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Ring of Hotek
Master
1 Master, (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Terrifying Mask of EEE!
Master
1 Master, (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Master
1 Master, (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Sorceress
1 Sorceress,
1 Lore of Metal
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Dispel Scroll
Dark Riders
4 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Herald (Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Doomfire Warlocks
17 Doomfire Warlocks, (Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Fast Cavalry; Poison (Riders only); Vanguard)
1 Master of Warlock (Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Poison (Riders only))
18 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Life Leeching
1 Spiteful Conjuration
1 0. Doombolt
1 3. Soulblight
Cold One Chariot
1 Cold One Chariot
2470 points Total.
I still have 30 points to play with. Now I have another channeler and lore of Metal to either get something good like glittering robes or plague of rust or take the default spell. This all helps against high armor enemies. The BsB will have Ring of Hotek. This should give my opponent pause if he thinks to 6 dice those Dwellers against the unit again. The chariot hits pretty hard, has a better save than the K-beast and has the valued swiftstride. The SS now has the channeling staff to help get some more dice. I always seem to roll 7 for winds of magic.
The noble with the mask will go into the bus too making that unit immune to fear and terror while causing Terror. These are not perfect fixes but should address some of the issues I had in my two games. I might drop a couple Warlocks and add Dark Riders to the other units. Character points are just about maxed so I cannot play around there. Maybe I will buy one more warlock and split the bus up a bit. Reduce it to 14. This might make it more manageable to move. Then I could have a second unit of 5 Warlocks for an extra soulblight and doombolt and another channeling attempt. :idea:
Yes upon further consideration I would reduce warlock bus to 14. This will make the bus 18 models strong. That knocks off a whole rank and will make closing the door on charges a bit easier. I will buy one more warlock and have another unit of 5 warlocks. Yes I know I have many casters (so to speak) vying or those vaunted power dice. But in my experience usually only a couple casters are in the right place at the right time to cast an effective spell. This also gives me 4 potential channels. The SS will channel on a 5 or 6. With her taking Death, I have the potential of 3 Soulblights. They do stack, right?
Supreme Sorceress
1 Supreme Sorceress, (Hekarti's Blessing; Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Level 4 Upgrade; Hand Weapon)
1 Dark Pegasus (Flyer; Stomp; Swiftstride)
1 Channeling Staff
1 Cloak of Twilight
1 The Lore of Death
Dreadlord
1 Dreadlord, (General; Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Armour of Destiny
Master
1 Master (Battle Standard Bearer), (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Battle Standard Bearer; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Ring of Hotek
Master
1 Master, (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Terrifying Mask of EEE!
Master
1 Master, (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Master
1 Master, (Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Lance; Repeater Crossbow; Heavy Armour; Sea Dragon Cloak; Shield; Scaly Skin)
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Sorceress
1 Sorceress,
1 Lore of Metal
1 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Dispel Scroll
Dark Riders
4 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Herald (Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Dark Riders
5 Dark Riders, (Musician Mus; Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Repeater Crossbow; Spear; Light Armour; Shield; Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
5 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
Doomfire Warlocks
17 Doomfire Warlocks, (Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Fast Cavalry; Poison (Riders only); Vanguard)
1 Master of Warlock (Always Strikes First (Riders only); Hatred (High Elves) (Riders only); Murderous Prowess; Hand Weapon; Poison (Riders only))
18 Dark Steed (Fast Cavalry; Vanguard)
1 Life Leeching
1 Spiteful Conjuration
1 0. Doombolt
1 3. Soulblight
Cold One Chariot
1 Cold One Chariot
2470 points Total.
I still have 30 points to play with. Now I have another channeler and lore of Metal to either get something good like glittering robes or plague of rust or take the default spell. This all helps against high armor enemies. The BsB will have Ring of Hotek. This should give my opponent pause if he thinks to 6 dice those Dwellers against the unit again. The chariot hits pretty hard, has a better save than the K-beast and has the valued swiftstride. The SS now has the channeling staff to help get some more dice. I always seem to roll 7 for winds of magic.
The noble with the mask will go into the bus too making that unit immune to fear and terror while causing Terror. These are not perfect fixes but should address some of the issues I had in my two games. I might drop a couple Warlocks and add Dark Riders to the other units. Character points are just about maxed so I cannot play around there. Maybe I will buy one more warlock and split the bus up a bit. Reduce it to 14. This might make it more manageable to move. Then I could have a second unit of 5 Warlocks for an extra soulblight and doombolt and another channeling attempt. :idea:Yes upon further consideration I would reduce warlock bus to 14. This will make the bus 18 models strong. That knocks off a whole rank and will make closing the door on charges a bit easier. I will buy one more warlock and have another unit of 5 warlocks. Yes I know I have many casters (so to speak) vying or those vaunted power dice. But in my experience usually only a couple casters are in the right place at the right time to cast an effective spell. This also gives me 4 potential channels. The SS will channel on a 5 or 6. With her taking Death, I have the potential of 3 Soulblights. They do stack, right?
Yorga have you ever used a swift light council? The prince is a joke to s7 banishment. Yes shooty elves are a problem but dark elves always struggle there. And against zulu dawn and ogre star lists this list wrecks face
I think with the release of the HE and DE books, perhaps even lizzis to an extent, the comeback of bs shooting is nigh, now for that WE book to come out...
Vampire Lord: Ogre Blade; Dragon Helm; Talisman Of Preservation; Potion Of Swiftness; Red Fury; Quickblood; Level 2 Wizard; Hellsteed; shield; heavy armour.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Tweaked and improved
I deed it has. Fixxed it for blood and glory and those missions
Vampire Lord: Ogre Blade; Dragon Helm; Talisman Of Preservation; Potion Of Swiftness; Red Fury; Quickblood; Level 2 Wizard; Hellsteed; shield; heavy armour.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
20 Zombies: standard bearer.
20 Zombies: standard bearer.
20 Zombies: standard bearer.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
I deed it has. Fixxed it for blood and glory and those missions
Vampire Lord: Ogre Blade; Dragon Helm; Talisman Of Preservation; Potion Of Swiftness; Red Fury; Quickblood; Level 2 Wizard; Hellsteed; shield; heavy armour.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf.
20 Zombies: standard bearer.
20 Zombies: standard bearer.
20 Zombies: standard bearer.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
10 Hexwraiths: Hellwraith.
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Traffic jam tactics, with careful placement of wolves and 3" coherency with HW, there's some pretty good cannon defense there.
Another random concept
Strigoi Ghoul King: Ogre Blade; Dragon Bane Gem; Red Fury. 355
Strigoi Ghoul King 260
Vampire: The Cursed Book; Seed Of Rebirth; Quickblood; additional hand weapon. 183
Vampire: Book of Arkhan; Red Fury; additional hand weapon. 183
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast. 410
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
8 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter. 314
8 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter. 314
Mortis Engine: Blasphemous Tome. 240
2,491 points
Strigoi Ghoul King: Ogre Blade; Dragon Bane Gem; Red Fury. 355
Strigoi Ghoul King 260
Vampire: The Cursed Book; Seed Of Rebirth; Quickblood; additional hand weapon. 183
Vampire: Book of Arkhan; Red Fury; additional hand weapon. 183
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast. 410
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
6 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf. 58
8 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter. 314
8 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter. 314
Mortis Engine: Blasphemous Tome. 240
2,491 points