Lore attribute and characters

[Elarahis]

Hello,

I have a simple question, couldn't find the answer.

Can our lore attribe heal characters other than the caster himself?

Thank you!

 

[Mr. West]

Hello,

I have a simple question, couldn't find the answer.

Can our lore attribe heal characters other than the caster himself?

Thank you!

Yes. Even states so on page 60 of your army book.

 

[Elarahis]

Some people argue that the "Resurect fallen warrior" box specifically says that characters cannot be healed, that's why I asked the question.

 

[Bullhax]

The "Resurrect fallen warriors"-box says "unless specifically stated otherwise, spells and magic items that restore lost wounds cannot heal characters or their mounts". The lore attribute states that "When a spell for LoV is successfully cast, the Wizard (or another friendly model within 12") instantly recovers a single wound lost earlier in the battle."

The lore attribute specifically states that it can heal characters or it wouldn't be allowed to heal the wizard.

 

[yuckfoo]

The "Resurrect fallen warriors"-box says "unless specifically stated otherwise, spells and magic items that restore lost wounds cannot heal characters or their mounts". The lore attribute states that "When a spell for LoV is successfully cast, the Wizard (or another friendly model within 12") instantly recovers a single wound lost earlier in the battle."

The lore attribute specifically states that it can heal characters or it wouldn't be allowed to heal the wizard.

Since the lore attribute says "friendly model" could you heal any model such as a mortis engine as well?

 

[Bullhax]

Yes!

Anything that has lost a wound earlier in battle. ME's ethereals what ever you like that's within 12".

Note that a miscast happens after the spell part so you can't heal a wound caused by this until later..!

 

[yuckfoo]

Thank you!

 

[MVC]

Further to this.....

The "Resurrect fallen warriors"-box says "unless specifically stated otherwise, spells and magic items that restore lost wounds cannot heal characters............

The Lore Attribute is not a spell. It's a Lore Attribute and happens as a result of a spell....but it's not a spell itself. Therefore it can heal characters.

 

[Smogg]

Some people argue that the "Resurect fallen warrior" box specifically says that characters cannot be healed, that's why I asked the question.

The lore attribute does not Resurrect fallen warriors, so the limitations stated there does not apply to the Lore Attribute.

 

[Elarahis]

Thank you all, this makes perfect sense

 

[RobTheWise]

To further add to this, I played a doubles tournament recently and was able to use the lore attribute to heal my team mates models :-D

 

[Noobafrass]

Note that a miscast happens after the spell part so you can't heal a wound caused by this until later..!

I was under the impression that the spell and the miscast were simultaneous so you could choose to take the miscast wound and then heal yourself with the lore attribute if you like (or the other way if the miscast wound would kill you)

 

[Bullhax]

Good points I didn't even concider

@noobafrass: BRB p. 34 when irresistible force occurs, first resolve the effect of the spell that the wizard was attempting to cast. As the spell has been cast with irresistible force, the casting player can at least enjoy the effect of his spell before something almost indescribably bad hoppens to the wizard and everyone nearby.

 

[Larro]

At ETC, we can only heal the Caster, or any other non-Character model, as per the ETC FAQ o_o

It's a terrible ruling IMO, and I don't know that GW will even address it via an FAQ anytime soon / ever, since it looks to be covered by the above mentioned rules.

- Larry

 

[The Sun King]

Yeah that is a terrible ruling Larro - I think it's pretty obvious(from the arguements the other guys have posted) that you can heal other characters with the lore attribute. No matter what it's not broken or OP to heal other characters this way so I do not see the point in ETC's ruling.

 

[Niltag]

Laro, I'm playign on ETC rules all the time and I'm able to heal whoever I wanna with lore atribute and everyone in Poland does so as well.

 

[eggsPR]

Yeah Larry I'm pretty sure, as it stands now, that you can heal other models (including characters) with the attribute. It's specific in the ETC FAQ VC section.

Last year we couldn't. This year we can.

 

[Niltag]

It's not in new FAQ by GW as well

 

[Bullhax]

Oh but it is! erv:

From the newest FAQ (april 13th):

Q: Can the Curse of Undeath Lore Attribute be used to heal friendly characters or their mounts, other than the caster himself? (p60)
A: Yes