New Characters For New Book

[El Syf]

This may have been mentioned elsewhere, sorry if i'm cluttering. But just wondered what special characters others want in the new book. I'm overkeen for the Red Duke but think one special character per bloodline wouldn't be asking too much would it? As opposed to the Von Carstein fest we have now. I know this is potentially opening a bag of worms but the Master Vampires...

 

[Adam_Barrow]

I want a Necrarch so bad I can taste it. I miss Zacharias as a character. Change his rules, forget his old oeuvre, whatever you like--but bring me that Book of Nagash wielding monster back.

 

[Forgotten Heretic]

I want a Necrarch so bad I can taste it.

i second this

 

[hairyjeff]

Can I third this, and have necromancer Lords back please.

 

[Kubikajiri]

O hope we get one for each bloodline.( if we are getting them back) I don't care if they get of the von carstins. But I usually dont play special characters.

 

[Guyzooip]

Having one for each bloodline would be cool. It'd give me a new strigoi model at least.

 

[thefoxinator]

motion passed(please please please) even if they keep multiple von carstiens a carachter from each bloodline who gives bonuses to a certain way of fielding and playing an army(eg the black prince and bonuses to ghouls) would be awesome how does this sound for charachters?
blood dragons(my personal fave):walach harkon and or red duke
nechrarchs: zacharias
strigoi:black prince and or vorag
von carstiens:any or all of them
lahmians:not sure about lahmians
misc:kemmler and krell and luther harkon(maybe???)

with harkon do you think intro of sartosans is possible? i mean no-one can deny pirate vampires are cool right?

 

[Nosfeatu]

Personally I am 95 percent sure Krell will be coming back along with Kemmler ( just based on the recent return of Arkahn the Black) and I would hope that the characters mentioned in the stories in the army book would show up. Two characters I hope for are Luther Harkon and Dieter Helsnitch because they were both pretty cool.

 

[Kubikajiri]

I only have the 7th and 8th VC books right now. Is there an average number of special characters per book?

 

[Pietr Von Carstein]

You mean 6th and 7th surely.
And the number of special characters varies a lot. The newer books have quite a few.

 

[Aeudair]

From my own personal preference i never use many special charaters, instead prefering to make my own vamp lords.

The one exception to this is Konrad, i just love the whole idea of him, and can lead to some funny situations when he is a couple of feet from an enamy line and gets distracted by a kitten.

But once he gets his chainsaw started, he causes more carnage than a shark with a laser.

He is pretty much the only one i want to see return in the new book.

 

[Sanai]

Its confirmed that we are getting Krell and Kemmler, Krell getting a brand new finecast mini.

 

[The Keeper]

Yup new Krell and his stance is wicked!!! the new Isabella is also pretty sweet looking to

 

[Pietr Von Carstein]

Hopefully Vlad gets a bit of a boost. The only thing I heard about him is worse than he is currently, his blood drinker. Only gets one would back no matter how many killed and even then its only on a 4+.

 

[Sanai]

To be honest blood drinker was a bit crazy, probably has been nerfed for balance reasons (and probably dropped in pts cost)

 

[Pietr Von Carstein]

We dont know if you can still take it outside of Vlad. Id guess no. It could even be that blood drinker is a special rule for him that increases the effectiveness of the vampire regain a wound on a 6 shenanigans. Isnt speculation fun?
I just want the first Von Carstein, and possibly Vashanesh, to be the most bad ass character in the book. Not too much to ask really.

 

[Sanai]

Honestly, I think Vlads bad-assness should come from his leadership ability (buffs to the undead and to other vampires in the army) and from difficulty killing him (ring) more than from killy ness. Sure, make him killy, but make his biggest strength be what carsteins are supposed to be about- being lordly.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Yes but Vlad was a great warrior as well as a tactician back in day before becoming a vampire and was a even greater warrior after.
I just want to see Vlad as not the killiest and not the big magic user but able to do quite allot in both and have a passive buff like a Tomb King would give for instance.

For Characters though I would agree to seeing Vorag or The bLack price for strigoi as the thefoxinator said, those are good ones to see from the background but the Lahmia its a bit harder.... Neferata was the only one ever put in the book and the ones we know about like Ulrika, Genevieve and the smattering of side characters you read in the books are not really worthy for being put in due to them no being good enough or like the first 2,k are not going to be seen in a vampire army.
Von Carstein is good as is, maybe stick Jerik Von Carstein in as he was a instrumental part in the history of the Vampire Counts.
Nechrarchs need to see either Zacharias or Melkior take back to the field.
I am happy with the Nerco choices as they are now and having Krell back is beyond awesome.
Blood dragons though need a character without exception,k either Walach or The Red Duke,k either of those I would be truely happy to see used again or for the first time in regards to the Duke.

 

[Sanai]

Isabella is a von carstein, being female doesnt make you a lahmian.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

I know mate, I was think Neferata but the Isabella model had me distracted. Fail. :slapface:
As I was saying she was the only one in a book but she is the head of the bloodline, I don't think they should ever be playable,k in my eyes its like putting khorn himself on the battle field.

 

[Sanai]

Yeah, in the nagash books, Neferata and a few of her progeny were able to decimate a large section of an enemy army singehandedly, so putting Neferata on the battlefield is just asking for trouble. (they just marched around killing people, but while they did so anyone who got close enough to see neferata or her children started killing each other)
The way I see it, any Lahmian vampire special enough to be a special character, doesnt fight on battlefields, because they manipulate everything from behind the scenes.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Well she would be even more powered up now as she would have more saves or a perma regeneration instead of tit wearing itself out.
I did enjoy her personal ability to take a wound to cause wounds but units were allot smaller then and vamps had more wounds I suppose.
I also loved seeing her turn other characters into vamps via the blood kiss, now that would sting in a battle.
I still think they would take to the field but it would be in a support tole, a caster or as an assassin, something along those lines.
Even with special rules to screw with your foes army and causing part of their army turn up in reserve due to discontentment, false information etc cause by the vampire and political up heavence at court or what have you.
Would certainly make things interesting.

 

[Sception]

Everything is more powerful in the fluff, and the Nagash books are of dubious merit as source material - for one thing because they remove Vashanesh and Nagash's ring from the fluff entirely.

 

[Sanai]

Actually they just give Vashanesh a different name. Also, they are canon, whether we like it or not.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Also if you read through the different book you find in "Nights Dark Masters" that Vashanesh is Vlad and that the Carstein ring is that ring and that the gem it held that would control all vampires is most likely the Gem known as the Eye of Nagash which is in the pendent found in one of the later Gotrek and Felix book where Ulrika Joins the ranks of the vampires.

Though to be honest I have never yet read the Nagash books, keep forgetting to do it.
I just don't like the inconsistencies int he lore you find with GW, you find every time a new guy writes a book he has not read any of the previous work or background so it is entirely different and accurate or in the worst cases the closest they have ever come to vampire counts in the past was Bram Stokers Dracula.