New Player seeking Advice: 2500pts Undead Legion List

[Happicakes]

I have recently decided to pick up WHF, and after wracking my brain I came up with this list as my goal for a 2500 point army.

Work-in-progress Undead Legions List

2497/2500 Points

LORDS:
Vampire Lord

• ML 4
• Red Fury, Quickblood, Beguile
• Nightshroud, Talisman of Preservation
• Great Weapon, Heavy Armor

HEROES:
2x Necromancers

• ML 2

CORE:
2x Skeletal Warriors (x30)

• Spears
• Champion
• Musician
• Standard Bearer

1x Skeletal Archers (x20)

• Master of Arrows
• Standard Bearer
• Musician

2x Dire Wolves (x5)

SPECIAL:
1x Grave Guard (x20)

• Seneschal
• Musician
• Standard Bearer w/ Banner of Barrows

2x Vargheists (x3)

• Vargoyle

RARE:
2x Mortis Engine

• Blasphemous Tome

1x Screaming Skull Catapault

Thanks in advance for any feedback. Also a big ty to Sunny and Najo for the excellent guide, was very helpful in getting this put together! If it helps, it looks like I will only be playing an empire cavalry-based list for a while.

EDIT: Will be running only Lore of Vampires on Casters until i get the hang of the game a bit better.

 

[Seneschal]

Hello and welcome

-Drop the catapult. Get more grave guard. make sure you take great weapons. 20 is much too small a number for them. Get at least 35 and field them 6-7 wide. If you bring 40, go with horde formation.
-Go with one unit of 40 skeletons and another of 20. the smaller unit is a bunker for the necros as you don't want them in combat. the bunker stays behind your mainline. Bring handweapon and shield, not spears.
-drop the level upgrades on the necros. Give them dispel scroll and book of arkhan.
-Your VL is carrying Talisman of Preservation not Protection, yes? You want the 4+ ward save.

 

[Happicakes]

Yep. The V. Lord is carrying the preservation one (whoops on typo). As for the parry save, will it be wasted with the mortis engine regen save? Or is it better to have the redundancy? Ty for the advice! Will work on getting it into the list asap.

EDIT: Never mind on parry v spears; read up on horde rules. Your suggestion makes way more sense now. (Ty again for advice)

 

[Happicakes]

Ok, I have been trying to incorporate your suggestions, but I am just over on points. Would you recommend replacing the Necro-Bunker Skeletons with Zombies to save points? Or should I make the bunker unit archers and look for points elsewhere?

EDIT: Misunderstood your advice for structuring units above. Disregard.

 

[Seneschal]

Flaming attacks negate reve and they seem to be everywhere nowadays so go with hand weapons. The regen save won't be negated if it's still a 5+, you get to use the better if the two between that and parry.

Definitely take zombies instead if you have them

 

[Happicakes]

Flaming attacks negate reve and they seem to be everywhere nowadays so go with hand weapons. The regen save won't be negated if it's still a 5+, you get to use the better if the two between that and parry.

Definitely take zombies instead if you have them

Ok will do! You have been a huge help. Ty!

As an aside, it kills me that making a list with a zombie dragon doesn't look practical at the moment. Seems like a sitting duck for empire cannons (awesome model though).

 

[Seneschal]

Np here to help

Keeping a dragon alive requires practice so don't give up on it, it just takes time getting used to.

 

[Happicakes]

OK... I did some rethinking using the advice above, and here is what the list has been adjusted to:

LORDS
VAMPIRE LORD (GENERAL)
1x Vampire Lord
· ML 4 (Lore of Vampires)
· Vampire Powers: Red Fury, Quickblood, Beguile
· Magic Items: Talisman of Preservation, Nightshroud, Other Trickster’s Shard
· Standard Items: Great Weapon, Heavy Armor

HEROES
VAMPIRE
1x Vampire
· ML 2 (Lore of Death)
· Magic Items: Dragonhelm, Seed of Rebirth, Book of Arkhan, Ironcurse Icon
· Vampire Powers: Quickblood, Dread Knight
· Standard Items: Great Weapon, Heavy Armor

NECROMANCER
1x Necromancer
· Lore of Vampires

NECROMANCER
1x Necromancer
· Lore of Vampires

CORE
ZOMBIES
20x Zombies

ZOMBIES
20x Zombies

ZOMBIES
20x Zombies

DIRE WOLVES
5x Dire Wolves

DIRE WOLVES
5x Dire Wolves

DIRE WOLVES
5x Dire Wolves

DIRE WOLVES
5x Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
GRAVE GUARD
38x Grave Guard
· Great Weapons
· Standard Bearer w. Banner of the Barrows
· Seneschal
· Musician

VARGHEISTS
3x Vargheists

VARGHEISTS
3x Vargheists

RARE
MORTIS ENGINE
1x Mortis Engine

MORTIS ENGINE
1x Mortis Engine

Will this work? I worry I may be too light on my core, but hopefully Invocation spam will be sufficient to bolster numbers as the game moves on.

EDIT: Tweaked list a bit. May also drop Beguile on Lord and Ironcurse Icon on Vamp Hero for a Blasphemous Tome on one engine.

 

[Atrophus]

The blasphemous tome on one of the mortis engines would be nice, would help with the invocations from the level 1's.
You could drop the vargoyles to pay for it.
Looks a nice balanced list though

 

[Happicakes]

The blasphemous tome on one of the mortis engines would be nice, would help with the invocations from the level 1's.
You could drop the vargoyles to pay for it.
Looks a nice balanced list though

Ty for Feedback! Sounds doable; will give it a whirl with suggestion.