Quickshaded Ghouls

[desfer]

I haven't painted for a looong time. I have many unpainted models and i hate that, so i decided to try army painter's quickshade strong tone. I searched on the internet for some tutorials, how to do it right and most ppl suggested to use a brush to apply the quickshade on models and then use a brush to remove the extra so the model doesn't get over shaded. It seems i fail to do that, i ve tried 3 times but the results are...meh...i dont like them at all, they are very dark, very dirty. Bad thing is that i already have 10 ghouls painted normally and they look too bright compared to the dipped ghouls. There must be something i am doing wrong. Do you think that dipping the models into the can and remove the extra by shaking hard might have better effects? oh, i forgot, i basecoat my ghouls with astronomican grey over black primer. I am very disappointed, i ve seen some dipped models that look fantastic so there is definitely something i am doing wrong. o_o

 

[Mannerheim27]

No worries my friend, do you have any pictures of your dipped models?

I've used the stuff myself and it takes a bit of practice. I get some of the quick shade and dip my brush very lightly in it and spread it around on the mini, just enough to make a noticeable change. Here, I know there's a guy around here who uses the Army Painter stuff as well and I'll post the thread here in a second....

*Edit* Found the link!

https://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-First-completed-VC-units-Dire-Wolves-Spear-Skellies

Leifer does a great job using that stuff and he even tells how he uses it. I hope this helps a bit!


Jake

 

[desfer]

Thanks for the encouragement!! I will try take some photos. Unfortunately i can't open the link but i ll search the name on Google, hope ill find something. Thanks again !!!

 

[Mannerheim27]

Hm, I can't get the link to work. Actually just do a search on here under the username Leifer and you should find his threads!

Jake

 

[Mr Saturday]

I find with the dip that I need to brush it on fairly liberally with a soft brush, with bristles about 20-30mm long. I have another brush, also soft, slightly smaller to then soak up excess. You have about 5-10 minutes to do this to your satisfaction before it begins to congeal. After that all bets are off baby. The dirty look generally comes from applying the dip too unevenly (hence the lathering it on at the start) or applying more once the initial coat is on, which creates uneven tone. I do this deliberately for my ghouls as I want them to look filthy. It's all or nothing with the dip, it either works great or is a total disaster.

It is also imperative you apply a base-coat that you intend to function as the highlight on the finished model, otherwise it will look too dark. As Redarmy says, it's all about practice with the dip, but it's worth the effort in my opinion.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I might have to have a go with dip myself, as I am terrible at painting fast

@ Jake - fixed your link.

 

[maddipper]

i have seen a video on painting quickshade on minis done by an army painter representative. they suggest painting on the quickshade, letting the miniature dry for about 1 minute then brushing the quickshade off. then let the mini dry 24 hours before proceeding.

 

[desfer]

Some photos of my dipped can be found here https://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Desfer-s-Dwarfs?pid=199128#pid199128
and here https://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Desfer-s-Painting-log-Updated-24-11-2010-WiP-Hellsteed?pid=199129#pid199129

 

[The Wife]

You also might try a less severe quick shade than the strong tone? I don't dip myself, but have heard quality reviews about it.

 

[desfer]

well the only models i don't like after dipping are ghouls. I think its the colors i use on them, they don't go very well with the quickshade. I may have to try the soft tone, but from what i ve heard the shadows it creates are very light.

 

[Mr Saturday]

These are the results I'm getting with strong tone:

 

[desfer]

wow these are simply amazing!! could you please tell me what exactly you do to achieve this fantastic result, also have you painted any of the current ghoul models from gw using strongtone?!

 

[Malochai]

I find with the dip that I need to brush it on fairly liberally with a soft brush, with bristles about 20-30mm long. I have another brush, also soft, slightly smaller to then soak up excess. You have about 5-10 minutes to do this to your satisfaction before it begins to congeal. After that all bets are off baby. The dirty look generally comes from applying the dip too unevenly (hence the lathering it on at the start) or applying more once the initial coat is on, which creates uneven tone. I do this deliberately for my ghouls as I want them to look filthy. It's all or nothing with the dip, it either works great or is a total disaster.

It is also imperative you apply a base-coat that you intend to function as the highlight on the finished model, otherwise it will look too dark. As Redarmy says, it's all about practice with the dip, but it's worth the effort in my opinion.

That's what Mr. Saturday said further up the thread

 

[desfer]

yeah but i d like also to know if he highlights them and when :tongue: i ve tried highlighting them before i apply matt varnish and all the highlights are gone

 

[Mr Saturday]

No GW yet, though I am assembling a couple at the moment. Here's the recipe:

Flesh – 4:1 Skull White: Rotting Flesh
Cloth – Tallarn Flesh
Metal – Chainmail
Leather – Snakebite Leather
Belt – Scorched Brown
Nails – Foundry Boneyard light 9B
Teeth & Eyes – Foundry Boneyard light 9B, then Foundry Boneyard light 9C
Blood – Mechrite Red
Severed Head – Elf Flesh

Dip - Army Painter Strong Tone

Re-highlight eyes, teeth and extreme highlights (mostly on the face) with the appropriate mix. I put on a coat of gloss varnish (not necessary, but I like to make minis durable) and then 1-2 coats of matt varnish. I use brush on, I don't hold with that spray stuff.

 

[desfer]

Thank you very much!! thats very helpful

 

[Mr Saturday]

No problem at all. I always keep the recipes for minis, as my memory is BRUTAL.

 

[gorethumb]

Can the dip be applied as a wash? If so can I use an airbrush gun? And would a dark wood varnish be the same as using the army painter dip?

 

[Mr Saturday]

I've never used an airbrush, but my guess is no. I'd say it would clog that airbrush up fast. It would be like filling it with honey.