I hope this is the right place and hasn't been asked before but I was wondering how you could make the red duke from the army book? Ive read a lot about him in background books and our army book but cant find any rules for him. Is he just a vampire lord with powers from the martialle options with a few magic items, or are other vampire powers used too?
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You just choose powers and items and a miniature that you feel would represent him well.
If you need more inspiration, the Black Library is releasing a book on him soon.
If you need more inspiration, the Black Library is releasing a book on him soon.
That Blood Dragon off of the Zombie Dragon looks like an awesome place to start from a modelling standpoint. Very 'Red Dukish'. 
Well here is a pic of him from the new black library book...
So perhaps the zombie dragon rider? It is nice to work with plastic when converting your own character.
So perhaps the zombie dragon rider? It is nice to work with plastic when converting your own character.
Ive got a VERY old WD somewhere (1999 i think) that had a model labelled the red duke and its still on the collectors page of the GW website. Yeah the new model look amazing. Ive got a friend who plays bretonnia and he said that the red duke is in their background too so it seem perfect to get my army large enough to play him as it will be a very fluffy game! Now i just dont know whether to have him lead a unit of blood knights or give him a zombie dragon and let him loose!
Do both. Most people are assembling Terrorgheists, so there are going to be alot of spare zombie dragon riders floating around. So put one on a nightmare (for lower than 3000 pts games) and one on a zombie dragon (for 3000pts+) Now you have two versions of your general!
I wish I could convert models like that it awesome! Is that a dragon prince steed? I was thinking of buying making both a zombie dragon and terrorgeist anyway so I would have a spare blood dragon anyway. Im trying to keep conversion minimal at the moment as I dont have the skills yet.
Personally I would go with one of the chaos knight steeds, but either way its a fairly simple conversion craig, simply just assemble the rider, assemble the steed, then glue the rider to the alternate steed just like you would to his own steed.
that sounds a really easy conversion. sometimes i see what others have done and think wow and then forget about the simple conversions. i like the look of archaon's mount as it looks really powerful partly undead.
As for Rules, there are no official ones, but I'd go with a Vampire Lord with; Infinite Hatred, Red fury and Dread knight to give a good base. Then a Nice Magic weapon and some good magic armour to bring his Fighting skill and resilience into line with his background (Even if he doesn't use them, can't quite remember, just representing his ability).
Any magic item you use is obviously going to be a unique item with your own name for it (i.e. not every army flies the drakenhoff banner, they fly their own equivalents)
If you aren't planning on getting the novel about the Red Duke, I will post up details about his personality/items/etc for you.
If you aren't planning on getting the novel about the Red Duke, I will post up details about his personality/items/etc for you.
Ive read somewhere that you have to take the mundane weapon to get the magic one so dread knight only gives you a magic lance but not a sword. Is this right? Is the red duke book out yet as the black library website says november?
craigo07 said:
It comes out November of this year so not out just yet.
As for the whole can't take a magic item if you can't take a mundane one if you can take a mundane weapon you can take a magical one be it a magical lance, halberd, sword, axe, great weapon or anything else you can think of same for armor some get special things normally wizards can't wear magical armour because they can't wear mundane but chaos sorcerers can because their in chaos armour.
It reminds me of how Games Workshop said you can have an axe of might if you so choose all your doing is changing the name of the item not the effect so if I want a lance of might then I have a lance of might which would be a little silly when I could buy a magical lance instead.
so i could have a vampire modelled with a lance but take the blood drinker or frost blade as my magic weapon? sorry if this sounds stupid!
Yeah, just because you take the Bloodrinker sword, doesnt mean it has to be a sword, or called the blooddrinker in your fluff. It could be called "Norberts blade of sucking wounds out of the enemy" and be an axe, it still has the same ingame effect and is perfectly viable.
For the Red Duke I would use the classic Flayed Hauberk/Blood Drinker/Crown of the Damned/Red Fury/Infinite Hatred/Supernatural Horror Build (Drop the Supernatural Horror for beguille if hes on a zombie dragon)
For the Red Duke I would use the classic Flayed Hauberk/Blood Drinker/Crown of the Damned/Red Fury/Infinite Hatred/Supernatural Horror Build (Drop the Supernatural Horror for beguille if hes on a zombie dragon)
I was think along them lines. I was originally going to take the dreadlance as I thought thats how the rules worked but then was worried I wouldnt have many points left for anything else. Thanks for the clear up.
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In terms of modelling, you could do great things with the Archaon Model in conjunction with the mounted blood dragon from the zombie dragon sprue. All you have to do is cut Archaon's sword at the hilt and stick on a lance (or if you dont want a lance a suitably big, non-deamoney sword). Then just pop the vampire head on him, stick on one of the shields from the ZD kit. You've imediately got a HUGE looking vampire lord on a "nightmare" with "boney" protrusions (just paint them like bone and not deamonic spikes). Bob's your uncle, incredibly intimidating vampire lord
Is there anyway to make the archaon model removable? I would like to use him on a zombie dragon too.
Not that I'm aware of if I recall his legs are molded onto the sides of his steed so you would have to kit the back and front of his steed off and just leave the middle which might not even look good as part of a dragon.