Revamped (no pun intended) 2250 tournament list

[Papadoc]

Hey Everyone!

These are variations of a list I usually run with VC (almost 6 years now). Wanted to get your honest feedback and which one you like the best and how would you tweek it. I added drakenhoff banner for a couple (its new to me) but let me know how you would tweek it to be uber competitive. Again, this is for a tournament so forget about being nice because I know my opponents won't be. Differences are in BOLD and things Im kinda teetering back and forth on.

Army Build A:

1. 19 Grave Guard with Champ, Banner, musician and Banner of the Barrows with

Vamp Lord with Blood drinker, level 3, flayed hauberk, crown of the damned, infinite hatred, red fury, and walking death

Pts = 758

2. 14 Skeles with Standard bearer, unit champ with

Vampire mounted on nightmare with nightshroud, helm of commandment, dark acolyte and lord of the dead

Pts 331

3. 8 Black Knights with champ, standard, musician, with Royal standard of strigos (no barding) with

Wight King with BSB and banner of the dead legion

Pts 419

4. 17 skeles with standard Pts 144

5. 17 skeles with standard Pts 144

6. Varghulf Pts 175

7. Cairn Wraiths with Banshee Pts 100

8. Corpse cart with balefire Pts 100

Army Build B

1. 15 Grave Guard with Champ, Banner, musician and Banner of the Barrows with

Vamp Lord with Blood drinker, level 3, flayed hauberk, crown of the damned, infinite hatred, red fury, and walking death

Pts = 710

2. 14 Skeles with Standard bearer, unit champ with

Vampire mounted on nightmare with nightshroud, helm of commandment, dark acolyte and lord of the dead

Pts 331

3. 7 Black Knights with champ, standard, musician, with Royal standard of strigos (no barding) with

Wight King with BSB and drakenhoff banner

Pts 495

4. 16 skeles with standard Pts 136

5. 15 skeles with standard Pts 128

6. Varghulf Pts 175

7. Cairn Wraiths with Banshee Pts 100

8. Corpse Cart with balefire Pts 100

Army Build C

1. 18 Grave Guard with Champ, Banner, musician and Banner of the Barrows with

Vamp Lord with Blood drinker, level 3, flayed hauberk, crown of the damned, infinite hatred, red fury, and walking death

Pts = 746

2. 14 Skeles with Standard bearer, unit champ with

Vampire mounted on nightmare with nightshroud, helm of commandment, dark acolyte and lord of the dead

Pts 331

3. 6 Black Knights with champ, standard, musician, with Royal standard of strigos (no barding) with

Wight King with BSB and drakenhoff banner

Pts 471

4. 17 skeles with standard Pts 144

5. 17 skeles with standard Pts 144

6. Varghulf Pts 175

7. Cairn Wraiths with Banshee Pts 100

8. 8 Dire Wolves Pts 64

Any and all comments are accepted. Thanks!!

 

[adam_dup]

Your list is hard to read, I would suggest revising it according to the forum guidelines, people will then be more inclined to read it and offer C&C. Also Carin wraiths with Banshees (to my knowledge) are a minimum of 175 points, as the min size is three. How many are in each of your lists?

 

[VladTheImpaler]

The Wraiths are minimum 150 + 25 for the Banshee.

Also, all your Black Knights are somewhat undersized - I would run them in 10's to ensure the rank bonus. Just my thoughts.

 

[TMS]

I'll echo Adam's points, re-writing the list to a more reader-friendly format would be a good thing.

@Vlad - using enough cavalry models to obtain a rank bonus is rarely worth the effort and points cost. Aside from being ablative wounds to keep your front rank whole for a longer time, the only thing that those 120+ points will do for you is to add +1 to your CR for that possible rank bonus (a greater probability for outnumbering as well, granted). Still, at the end of the day it is all down to personal preferences, heheh.

 

[Papadoc]

Sorry about the format will redo it. Also the banshee wraiths unit was probably a typo sorry.