simple question about CC involving war machines

[Regis Von Carstein]

I just read that when "beasts" attack a warmachine, they count as "3 models" when figuring out how many can attack the warmachine, which means that only two d. wolfs can attack a wm at one time.

Is this correct?

Is so, an entrenched Dwarf WM can easily fight off dire wolves.

 

[Aedin]

Correct BRB p. 110.. and they usually do.

The important thing is if their in combat they cant shoot.

 

[John Rainbow]

Unfortunately true. I'm not sure why you would charge Dire Wolves at Dwarf warmachines though. Maybe Empire or Bret ones but Dwarfen of Elvish contraptions are a poor target. It doesn't matter that you can't get shot, you'll still die. I guess maybe you could hope to stop it shooting next turn if you hold in CC.

 

[Regis Von Carstein]

This is unfortunate, I don't know why they did not make it that cav/beasts count as 2 models, like it was in 6th.

Against dwarfs it is tough.

Against HE its OK, they only have 2 crew and don't have saves against S4 of wolves on the charge.

I think 5 Wolves can eventually beat 2 HE crewmen. Assuming he passes fear, 2 HE crew man deal 2*8/9*0.5 = 8/9 wounds (ie. kill one wolf). Wolves deal 2*0.5*2/3 = 2/3 crew dead.

On the second turn HE kill one more wolf and wolves will on average, have killed one HE crew.

So third round of combat sees 3 wolves vs 1 HE. My money is on the wolves.