Terrorgheist

[Dogmar]

I was not talking about the monster itself being unfluffy or uncreative. As I said model and rules are perfectly fine and in a ghoul themed list it would be super-fluffy to be fair. Neither am I concerned that one will see 1-2 of them in the regular army if said person likes the monster. I think it is just a general problem in 8th that you can totally go overboard with your monsters. I think it's not in the spirit of battling armies if 50% of said army consists of the same monster over and over again.

Hey, maybe it's just me, but if so, please let me have that opinion.

Edit: The name might appear less dumb to you because you are not German. I for one dislike the name, even though I like the monster in general. At least they came up with something new - or something mythological I am not familiar with that is.

 

[The Keeper]

Hi all,

Cant wait to get my hands on one of these pre-ordered two just seconds ago one for a terrorgeist and one for a zombie dragon. Althought i did make my mannfred so he could be lifted off his nightmare as i was hoping for abyssal terror kit oh well, will have to convert one lol.

Working hard now to clear my work area of 20 zombies, and the last of my grave guard hord so when it arrives it can have all the attention it deserves!

 

[Vortaine]

I was not talking about the monster itself being unfluffy or uncreative. As I said model and rules are perfectly fine and in a ghoul themed list it would be super-fluffy to be fair. Neither am I concerned that one will see 1-2 of them in the regular army if said person likes the monster. I think it is just a general problem in 8th that you can totally go overboard with your monsters. I think it's not in the spirit of battling armies if 50% of said army consists of the same monster over and over again.

Hey, maybe it's just me, but if so, please let me have that opinion.

Edit: The name might appear less dumb to you because you are not German. I for one dislike the name, even though I like the monster in general. At least they came up with something new - or something mythological I am not familiar with that is.

Ah, well, I suppose that could be why. I don't speak really any German, but its understandable.

Anyways, I don't really feel the same way, but(!) I have only played for about 4-5 months, so I'm excited we get new monsters. :]

I am just curious as to who is going to build the zombie dragon (which is a gorgeous kit) and who will build the TG. I used a Dawnstar Deathstar Zombie Dragon Lord against a skaven fellow the other day, and it was pretty hilarious how it ran around eating all his war machines. Of course, the Dragon was little more than a taxi service since I had at least equilibrium at any given combat phase.

I could definitely see using the ZDLord as a pact in a large enough game (even as a VC army) since that way he can be a bit more expendable and not as integral to the rest of our army.

As I said before, I think the TG is a much better unit/mount given its better survivability and more utility, so aside from the Zombie Dragon I have, I think the next two kits I snag will be two of TGs.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Personally I'm happy.

We have a new big monster that is not stupidly OP, but is actual viable. I think it is reasonably costed, and the scream attack is a nice change instead of another breath weapon. More than that, it is quite effective when it is at full wounds, and can be used repeatedly.

Yes, the name may not be the best, but come on. In the WD we have had some pretty decent changes that have given us more options. GW has hardly ever done anything like this for other armies, so I think instead of moaning about what we wasn't given, we should be happy with what we have.

I for one will probably get this model to use as a Terrorgheist. I plan to use a converted Carnosaur as my ZD.

 

[Pietr Von Carstein]

Ill be getting it and making it into the terrorgheist. Ill be mounting the vamps on bases just cos.

 

[Sanai]

You will need to do some reposing or get a spare set of legs for the blood dragon lord, but the ghoul king shouldnt be too hard to put on a base. By the way, the ghoul king isnt falling of the TG, he is leaping into the fray, he is described as leaping of the terrorgeist, into the battle in a frenzy (only way he can realistically actually attack anything without having a lance!) and then he just leaps back onto the terrorgeist when the combat is over. So his terrorgeist isnt just a mount, its more of a fighting companion.
Also, the terrorgeist gets a scream because when it was alive it was a giant bat monster (who screech). When one is raised fromt he dead its screech becomes magically enhanced, being said to be channelling the screams of the dammed.
So thats those things explained for those who didnt get the ghoul kings pose or didnt get why it had a scream attack (I read about it in the White Dwarf today which made things make alot more sense.)

 

[Nagashizzar]

I for one will probably get this model to use as a Terrorgheist. I plan to use a converted Carnosaur as my ZD.

Please be sure to post the conversion as I have a Carnosaur who's collecting dust at home!

 

[Grish]

Note that the amount of wounds it has can be healed. More difficult to do these days, but you could ensure your VAmpire list has plenty of powerdice to go around. Perhaps even a lodestone corpse cart. Keep this at high wounds, and it can really lay the hurt on some expensive models.

Interested to try it out.

 

[Count Darvaleth]

If it is considerably cheaper than the ZD (which I believe it is) then it will become an option in 2000pts games; I believe it costs "A Black Coach + a Sceptre de Noirot" so that leaves you with... 70pts to spend to fit it into 2000pts. Poo, no Dreadlance + Crown of the Damend + Red Fury + Walking Death for me...

But think about it; if it is used as a hammer unit against an anvil of, say, 40 Ghouls, it could work on a flank perfectly well: ghouls hold, VL and TG fly into side, inflicting (with the help of the Beasts +3A/S spell) 7 S10 hits with red fury...

 

[Dogmar]

I think rules-wise the TG in a way outclasses the ZD as it is a lot cheaper and more survivable. Given the monster is kept at high wounds the screech attack is relatively reliabe and also re-usable unlike the ZDs breath weapon. I might use the ZD anyway because I think it's super-fluffy.

Additionally the TG's name in German is different to sound less un-creative and describe it's origin better, so now I'm really satisfied. Definitely getting a kit to use as a TG. It might be possible to build both out of one kit with some clever use of magnets.

 

[Count Darvaleth]

To be perfectly honest I doubt any non-VC opponent will be able to tell the difference between a ZD and a TG, so you could use it as either to save cash in non-tournament scenarios. That's what I'll be doing, anyway!

The TG looks very useful. Not too expensive platform for a lord to flap about on, and has that lovely ranged attack. It may become useful for holding a magic-oriented lord, using Helm and FL Beasts to boost nearby combats whilst using other magic and the TG shooting attack to deal damage.

Alternatively, stick a lord on it with Dreadlance, crown of the damned, red fury, ghoulkin (as it is required) and avatar of death, then have a nearby thrall buff him with the beasts spell granting +3S/A and watch as he causes 7 S10 red fury hits in his first round of combat... ouch!

 

[Vespian]

Do you guys ever put your VL on a monster? It seems to dangerous to me. One cannon, trebuchet, even a mortar... that's the game.

 

[Count Darvaleth]

Do you guys ever put your VL on a monster? It seems to dangerous to me. One cannon, trebuchet, even a mortar... that's the game.

I enjoy this though. I'm a little mad, but I can always laugh when things start crumbling, as long as it's not turn one. Plus I take a 4+ ward save anyway... and it might not necessarily hit the rider either...

 

[Sanai]

I enjoy taking such risks. I'm not the kind of vamp who sits in a bunker of troops, if I'm going to go down its going to be in a blaze of glory cackling madly from the back of a giant monster.

 

[Swissdictator]

I enjoy taking such risks. I'm not the kind of vamp who sits in a bunker of troops, if I'm going to go down its going to be in a blaze of glory cackling madly from the back of a giant monster.

I love that quote!

I might get one for terrain, but I could see it being very fun for a megabattle.

 

[N.I.B]

I'm glad for the new models and rules. I don't expect to see many Zombie Dragons for the sole fact that I almost never see 3000 point games. Fortunately GW realized this and didn't want to risk the sales of the new monster kit, so they made the Terrorgheist able to be fielded as a lone monster rare choice.
A shame the rules disallow us taking more than 625 point lords at 2500 points, counting in mounts. The Ghoul King is the best new VC model in this release batch, hands down. But imo you need at the very least a lvl 3 caster in your army, and you don't want to strip 50+ points from your vampire lord just to put him on a big monster, so the riders will be gathering dust.

Without play testing, I hold the new Terrorgheist better than the Varghulf but worse than the Black Coach (which is awesome). But I will be having one of each in my army - a Coach, a TG and a Varghulf.

 

[Jacques Dauger De Cavoye]

I plan on buying at least one for use as a TG, but I plan on building the ZD model (Which looks cooler in my opinion) and then when I want to use it as a ZD I can toss the model on. I myself have high hopes for the Terrorgheist, it looks like a good addition to a VC force, and gives incentives for playing an army based around the LD attacking aspect of VC.

 

[Skittles]

Picked my terrorgeist last night ( FLGS for the win ), and built it up. I used the terrorgeist body, but did a little converting to get the saddle from the ZD on. This way I can use the armored vamp as the rider, which works better with how I plan on equiping him.

Overall I like the kit, though I am a little bummed - the sword for the BK is very thin - I snapped it half without trying while attempting to magnetize it. Oh well - picture time:

 

[Lynks]

how customisable was the kit? I want to have the terrorgheist leg pose with the zombie dragon as the rest, so it sits closer to the ground and the wings are not so high in the air. Overall, i just want to "lower" my zombie dragon, pimp it up you know?

 

[Sanai]

Lynks, you gunna give it custom spinning rims and nos canisters too?

 

[Lynks]

Lynks, you gunna give it custom spinning rims and nos canisters too?

'Course!

 

[Skittles]

how customisable was the kit? I want to have the terrorgheist leg pose with the zombie dragon as the rest, so it sits closer to the ground and the wings are not so high in the air. Overall, i just want to "lower" my zombie dragon, pimp it up you know?

The hip joints are separate pieces for each build, so it may be possible. The problem i see with this is you may need to then build the wings in the TG style as well, or you will need to get another mounting point for the base in there - the ankle joints are not strong enough to hold the whole model up without extra engineering

 

[Tim]

How feasible is it to magnetize the wings and maybe other parts to make it easier to store it? Alternatively also how feasible is it to magnetize the kit to make both monsters?

 

[Vespian]

Magnetizing is possible but it won't be real easy. I have mine 95% assembled and cleaned. I'm really disappointed by the base size. It is similar to a 5x7 wide block of troops. Any stone thrower is going to be dropping some serious thumpage on it as well as any characters....

 

[N.I.B]

So the base size is 100x140mm?