The Next Step in the Universe

[Count Erick]

Are the other stories worth reading with it?

I thought it was pretty good. Chains of Command is the first time we get to see Uriel Ventris, so if your interested in/have read the Ultramarine novels it should be good. Missing in Action features Inquisitor Eisenhorn. Business as Usual was interesting because it also features someone from the Ultramarine novels and I always love aircraft, so Raptor Down was neat.

How you remember all of this is amazing

Well, I don't remember all of it. I knew that the war the quote was referring to was the Gothic War, and I knew that the Blackstone's destroyed an entire system and several planets, so I went back and looked up my info on the Gothic War (Battlefleet Gothic books, Codex Eye of Terror) and then posted the info I got.

Who is Farseer Maechu? Is he mentioned in the Eldar codex?

No. He(or she) is only mentioned in the Necron Codex and appears to just be a Farseer.

What is your view of 40K's storyline now, how it is entering the End of Times Erick?

Thats a tough question...
I dont see Chaos taking over the galaxy for several reasons, the most dominant of which is that Chaos could very well destroy itself in the process.
The Eldar have been stated as being basically a dieing species, however I don't think their position is as desperate as even they themselves seem to think. On a galactic scale they are far outnumbered by many other races, but the total galactic population of Craftworld and Exodite eldar is probably in the billions.

What I think it will come down to, is the Imperiums ability to direct and prioritise its threats, the two most dire being the Necron and Tyranid.
The Tyranids of Hive Fleet Leviathen have shown that the Hive Fleets can be distracted by sending them against another enemy, which I think will be a part of the Imperiums strategy in dealing with them.
The Necrons, likewise, have shown they can be beaten after a fashion by destroying their Tomb Worlds, but the Necron threat is a dire one indeed.

I think that the Imperium will be trying set its enemies against each other (Tyranids and Orks, Chaos and Necron) while they resupply, build up and take measures to prolong the combat.

As far as the whole 'End Times' goes...I duno. The Golden Throne is a 10,000 year old relic that no one understands the processes of, so I don't really see how anyone can realise its 'failing'. It could simply be a temporary problem, one that it may have gone through before but now everyone is only noticing.

 

[Gree]

Custodes are also, in fluff, the equivalent of primarchs, but maybe just a tad bit weaker. In False Gods, Horus killed several of them in his dream sequence, but it was also a Chaos dream, with Horus likely powered up by the gods to boost his ego.

No, Custodes are nowhere as powerful as primarchs. Angron, unarmed and wounded, kills one in ''Tales of the Heresy'' and Rogal Dorn is amused by the fact that two Custodes dared to challenge him in the same book.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Probably a ridiculous question, but perhaps Erick could (if he had time), create a Warhammer Wiki for us Fantasy fans? I have not forgotton about setting up the Wiki, and it would be great if all this hard to find fluff was in there?

 

[Count Erick]

Probably a ridiculous question, but perhaps Erick could (if he had time), create a Warhammer Wiki for us Fantasy fans? I have not forgotton about setting up the Wiki, and it would be great if all this hard to find fluff was in there?

Hmm...I duno. I've never done anything with Wikipedia before, so...you will probably have to walk me through it.

 

[Gree]

Probably a ridiculous question, but perhaps Erick could (if he had time), create a Warhammer Wiki for us Fantasy fans? I have not forgotton about setting up the Wiki, and it would be great if all this hard to find fluff was in there?

Not needed.

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

 

[Knightofni]

That Lexicanum site is really poor though.. I look there all the time for information but it isn't all that helpful.

And Count Erick seems far more knowledgeable about fluff then the Lexicanum website

 

[Kaladas Harkon]

However, the 40K Lexicanum is top-notch. That's where I got most of my material.

Sirihar, you can find that story in the Let The Galaxy Burn anthology, which has some other good stuff in it.

 

[Get of W'soran]

The Lexicanum isn't bad

the 40k wiki, now that site is poor.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I've had a look at the Lexicanum and the 40K wiki and I am underwhelmed. So far I have been much more intrigued and satisfied with Erick's answers, so I still vote for him to do one for us

 

[The Dark Lord Mr Fluffy]

Does anyone know what's going on with Gazkull and Yarrick? They make such a great couple

I think you'll find that the coolest 40K character that you need to worry about is Commissar Fuklaw. He's my idol now

 

[Ophidicus]

Does anyone know what's going on with Gazkull and Yarrick? They make such a great couple

It'll never last.

 

[Zanos]

Necrons aren't much of a threat anymore, guard regiments use them as training exercises on some planets. "Sir, if that green training beam hits me, am I out of the guard?" "Yeah, something like that."

 

[Chunky Von Waffles]

Does anyone know what's going on with Gazkull and Yarrick? They make such a great couple

I think you'll find that the coolest 40K character that you need to worry about is Commissar Fuklaw. He's my idol now

Nothing new.
After Armageddon, Yarrick joined the Black Templars on a Crusade to stop Gazkull for good.

 

[Sirihar]

Well, I don't remember all of it. I knew that the war the quote was referring to was the Gothic War, and I knew that the Blackstone's destroyed an entire system and several planets, so I went back and looked up my info on the Gothic War (Battlefleet Gothic books, Codex Eye of Terror) and then posted the info I got.

Still, I applaud you.

I think that the Imperium will be trying set its enemies against each other (Tyranids and Orks, Chaos and Necron) while they resupply, build up and take measures to prolong the combat.

As far as the whole 'End Times' goes...I duno. The Golden Throne is a 10,000 year old relic that no one understands the processes of, so I don't really see how anyone can realise its 'failing'. It could simply be a temporary problem, one that it may have gone through before but now everyone is only noticing.

No doubt there will be many within the Imperium who would disagree that this would be the best course of action.

As for the last point, that's why I love 40K. Speculation and discussions.

 

[Onikaigo]

Wow. I know I'm not the only one that read this and realized that I know absolutely nothing about 40K. I play Orks. Knowledge isn't necessary.

If it's not green, smash it. If it shoots at you, Smash it. Sometimes burn it, maybe crush or stab it, but always make it dead.

It's what Orks do.


I laud the combined knowledge of CN, though. Impressive stuff.

 

[Chunky Von Waffles]

As for the last point, that's why I love 40K. Speculation and discussions.

Indeed, the speculations and discussions that are made about the 40k universe is something amazing.
Talk as if this were actual history :thumb:. And some discussions can go just as deep if it were, if not more than, some actual history.
I've always admired GW for creating such an in-depth and vast universe with so many opportunities and focal points.
A near limitless amount of possibilities for discussions, debates, plot advances, battles, stories, legends, heroes, the whole lot.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Sooooooooo, any more votes for creating our own 40K wiki?

 

[Marcus Von Drac]

Yeah why not. Only, I think 'our' is pushing it :tongue:
Eric seems to be the main source if info here.

 

[Count Erick]

I think you'll find that the coolest 40K character that you need to worry about is Commissar Fuklaw.

Meh, I'm more into Commissar Raege.
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But hey, a man has to stick to his principles.

No doubt there will be many within the Imperium who would disagree that this would be the best course of action.

Why? The Imperium is xenophobic no doubt about it, but they would rejoice at the thought of their enemies destroying each other rather than their own armies.

Sooooooooo, any more votes for creating our own 40K wiki?

I duno guys, I still have some stuff I need to take care of, like the Book of Magnus, and I'm also writing a story about the Adeptus Titanicus, so...

 

[Wraithian]

Necrons aren't much of a threat anymore, guard regiments use them as training exercises on some planets. "Sir, if that green training beam hits me, am I out of the guard?" "Yeah, something like that."

Close. It makes mention in the 40K 5th ed rule book (or, for the orks of the crowd, "Rool buk") that the timing of Necron incursions can be measured so accurately that some guard regiments use them for training. I can't imagine them being less deadly (though perhaps less efficient) than a necron lord who isn't caught in a, "programming loop."

Also remember that it is only on some worlds this is the case. Necrons are an emerging threat still. I *think* it makes mention in the Necron codex that what has been seen is only the tip of a greater threat, and somewhere I also read that what we see emerging from the tomb worlds are more of the, "farmers," to put it lightly, perhaps more of a scout force, testing the waters.

If I had to guess, after the original, "Dawn of War," PC games, we're going to see lords emerging with more personallity, more, "free will," in later fluff.

Necrons... I remember when they were, "Chaos Androids." *sigh* </old man musings>

 

[Chunky Von Waffles]

Necrons aren't much of a threat anymore, guard regiments use them as training exercises on some planets. "Sir, if that green training beam hits me, am I out of the guard?" "Yeah, something like that."

Close. It makes mention in the 40K 5th ed rule book (or, for the orks of the crowd, "Rool buk") that the timing of Necron incursions can be measured so accurately that some guard regiments use them for training. I can't imagine them being less deadly (though perhaps less efficient) than a necron lord who isn't caught in a, "programming loop."

Also remember that it is only on some worlds this is the case. Necrons are an emerging threat still. I *think* it makes mention in the Necron codex that what has been seen is only the tip of a greater threat, and somewhere I also read that what we see emerging from the tomb worlds are more of the, "farmers," to put it lightly, perhaps more of a scout force, testing the waters.

If I had to guess, after the original, "Dawn of War," PC games, we're going to see lords emerging with more personallity, more, "free will," in later fluff.

Necrons... I remember when they were, "Chaos Androids." *sigh* </old man musings>

The "testing the waters" and "only the tip of a greater force" your thinking of are the Tyranids. :thumb:
There are millions of Necrons, all very bland in my opinion, that are just gathering dust in their tombs.
Then when someone starts colonizing the world they pop out going "OUR WORLD..." Necrons are probably the race with the least amount of threat to the Imperium.
Necrons are practically a dead-end race, that's why GW isn't going anywhere near a new Codex right now.
If you can tell, I'm not exactly a fan of Necrons :tongue:

Quick thing, have you guys ever heard of...the 5th God of Chaos?
He's known as the Forgotten God, back when GW developers and etc. could keep the rights to some of their work.
They created Malal, who could be described as the God of Destruction and Anarchy from what I've read, possibly the reason why all the Gods hate eachother. He grows strong from Chaos and anarchy itself. His followers were known to hate just about EVERYONE including other Chaos warbands and other Gods, therefore hunting them.
The creator of him left GW and took Malal with him...and so ends that story.
I've been rather interested in him for quite a while.

 

[Count Erick]

The "testing the waters" and "only the tip of a greater force" your thinking of are the Tyranids.

No, he's right, the Necrontyr are very much still an emerging threat, the vast majority of their destructive machines still laying dormant.

There are millions of Necrons

Considering its the entire population of an intergalactic race, its more along the lines of billions.

Necrons are probably the race with the least amount of threat to the Imperium.

The Necron threat is extreemly dire, especially considering the fact that most of what we have seen of the race have been light raids, not full fledged wars of conquest.
Right now the Necrons are simply harvesting souls and preparing the way for the eventual domination of the C'tan.

A perfect example of this is in the Space Marine codex, page 44 where it talks about the Necron 'World Engine'.
This is a ship described as being the size of a planet. Now, perhaps because of Star Wars and other media, the concept of a ship the size of a planet may not be as shocking as it should be, so let me underscore this:
ITS THE SIZE OF A DAMN PLANET AND THE IMPERIUM COULD DO NOTHING TO STOP IT!!!!
The 'World Engine' claimed the lives of two entire planets, 1/3 of the Vidar sector fleet and an Entire Space Marine chapter.
And the cold truth is, there are probably many more of these things out there. But personally, I think the most frightening thing about it is the fact it came from no where.
With a ship the size of a planet suddenly appearing from no where, and the assault on Mars, the Necrons have made it known that they can appear anywhere, at any time they want, when they want. No where in the Imperium is safe.

Quick thing, have you guys ever heard of...the 5th God of Chaos

mhm. Malal, representing Chaos's tendency to destroy itself. His colors have traditionally been alternating black and white with a strong skull motif.

 

[Gree]

The Necron threat is extreemly dire, especially considering the fact that most of what we have seen of the race have been light raids, not full fledged wars of conquest.
Right now the Necrons are simply harvesting souls and preparing the way for the eventual domination of the C'tan.

Actually it seems to me that GW is starting to ''water down'' the Necrons. If you read the 5th rulebook description of them you have things like malfunctions and programming flaws with little to no mention of the C'Tan. It seems that GW is moving away from that sort of thing.

 

[Zephyr]

Quick thing, have you guys ever heard of...the 5th God of Chaos

mhm. Malal, representing Chaos's tendency to destroy itself. His colors have traditionally been alternating black and white with a strong skull motif.

That's out of the official fluff is it not? I thought that Malal was the intellectual property of en ex-employee and when he quit he took the rights with him.

 

[Marcus Von Drac]

Indeed, but theres plenty of rumours and fan-created background out there. I mean, just google it.