TLOS probs

[Darkos]

Treu LoS has been an issue for me too. But for what i played about of 8th, has become a way too see all what you want from wathever you want. Very, very few things can hide an unit from shooting, not even terrain!!

I think also game has lost a lot in terrain issues. Now forests don't block LoS? And also don't affects movement? So i can charge my GG across the forest into your backfield units? Wow! why we are putting forests (or ruins, for the like) in table? Also, it's very unrealistic.

About the topic, for me is clear that large targets can see above units (dude!, they can see even across terrain!). But in case not, then ironblasters can't also see the Geist.

 

[Demian]

As I recall, in the prevoius edition, the banshee's ghostly howl (the frist "shriek") didn't need LOS, just the 8 inches in distance (could be wrong...)

But anyways. We're loosing the bigger picture here...

the Terrorgheist is a giant ghoul-bat. Bats don't see with their eyes!! They scream to see! !

(ok it's not the bigger picture, but it makes up for me not remembering the banshee howl rule ^_~)

 

[Tawg]

About the topic, for me is clear that large targets can see above units (dude!, they can see even across terrain!). But in case not, then ironblasters can't also see the Geist.

It's easy to concede rules and use them against them like that, the problem would be if they are being tools and arguing a single case that is helpful to them, vs one later when they takesy-backsy because the other way would be helpful.

Although they could also pretend that since they can draw 'T' LOS from their eyes, higher up, they can actually make an angle to you, where as you can't because you chose to 'Durp' your Ghiest's head to the ground all ostrich like.

Then you kick them in the nuts (As if they had any).

 

[Tawg]

the Terrorgheist is a giant ghoul-bat. Bats don't see with their eyes!! They scream to see! !

Echo location, of course he can see you!

lol, sew funnah.

But yeah, they did make Banshee's need LOS (For some reason) in 8th.

 

[Yorga]

Pladvoncarstein could also take some thin copper wire. Bend it so it looks like a long ghoulish eyestalk. Have it come from the eye sockets of the ghiest. Take some 'greenstuff' and model eyeballs, put them on the wire and then paint them up suitably ghoulish. Now his eyes are way up high. Problem solved and a unique look for the model.

Or mount the model on a brass tube or other suitable structure (paint the tubing black) to make it look like it is in flight? I have a chaos dragon done like that.

 

[aussie]

Had this come up in a game against ogres the other day. Had terrorgheist infront of a unit of ogres (3 models) ironblaster just behind (very close) . Now I wanted to scream at the ironblaster but due to the terrorgheists head being positioned low my oponent said I could not scream as I could not draw line of sight from the TG's eyes to the iron blaster. Is this correct? In the end screamed at the ogres and caused only 1 wound got charged and no more TG (glass hammer or what)

now it is sad some one wanted to pull that out of a hat.....but try this

i got two T.G one in normal pos the other i started it in the t.g pos then changed it up when it came to the wings and legs. which i used the zombie dragon pos yes the t.g head is up but man it looks awesome.

 

[Abbysal]

You should have been able to shoot it. A Terrorgheist is taller than an Ogre, end of story.

I was going to try to figure out a clever response to your dilemma, but it's just not worth it. Your friend/gaming buddy was a complete tool in this example. just make a house rule of a suggested rule which is not to be a twat. before you play him again agree on heights of models and what things should be able to see over other things and kindly explain that you do not wish to play against people that exploit your good nature and the rules of the game.:zombie:

 

[No Life King]

@Yorba, lol at the copper wire eyeball, I'm thinking pin it and just leave it in your case until someone pulls this TLOS nonsense, then slide it in, so the Tg has a 10" high eye stalk, turn to your opponent, "Problem?".

Or get a pinable skyscraper, wait for them to say his head is too low to see, then add the skyscraper to his base. "How about now?"

Or you could see how far a terrorgheist fits up your opponents nose...

 

[N1AK]

TLoS is the dumbest thing, I spotted the cheese as soon as I read the new edition, and though me and my friends aren't douchebags about stuff like that, I can see the tourney rules-laywers crying foul, and then modeling all dragons on skyscrapers.

Responding to the topic in general not just you or this post.

I'm fed up of people moaning about how TLOS is stupid, abused etc. I've played ~70 games of 8th edition and taken part in 4 large tournaments since 8th came out. I have not played against a single model which abused TLOS rules nor played an opponent who tried to take the p*ss in how he used it.

Personally I still prefer abstract LOS rules; however there's a 1000x as much complaining about TLOS as their are actual TLOS issues.